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2fm - New schedule coming

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,295 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    Zamps "comedy" was highly subjective. Personally never found her funny.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,329 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Radio 1's morning schedule was already built, that same lad was unable for 5 years to boost 2fm audiences and it was suggested he was their super star presenter.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Shan Doras


    Jesus Christ, the state of Dan Healy on the Today CB show this morning, trying to pretend that kids are listening to 2fm like it were 1998, at least Claire pointed out to him that she never hears anyone younger than 35 on the phone to 2fm.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,652 ✭✭✭its_steve116


    I think Tracy Clifford wouldn't be bad on the breakfast show, she's been on afternoons now for 8 and a half years and it would be a nice step-up for her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,200 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    Also, Tracy presented the breakfast show on Spin1038 before moving to 2FM.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,652 ✭✭✭its_steve116


    She was the original host of Fully Charged when it launched in 2008, along with Ryan Philips.

    It would be nice to have her back on breakfast radio.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,329 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    That Dan Healy interview with Claire Byrne was car crash really. Out of breath and defensive in the extreme, she didn't really get anything out of him. No real argument from him. He's living of past successes.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭iseegirls


    A man who is panicking and has to be under serious pressure. 2FM being front page news on all the papers is not a good thing, despite what he says.

    He's lost control of it. Losing your presenters from 3 out of the 4 main morning & daytime shows within a fortnight is unacceptable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,329 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Honestly I think he was always like this, I think the only issue he has is that they all made their decisions at different times and he was hoping to retain one of them.

    There are 3 things Dad did : -

    1. Bring New Irish Music to 2fm
    2. Bring the Choice music award to 2fm
    3. Bring influencers to 2fm

    If he is bring someone from social media it needs to be someone talking about new music. Did the 2 Johnnies, Jenny Z or Doireann have any real insight into music, or were they relying on everyone else?


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    Paul Russell has been with 2FM since the mid 80s



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Shan Doras


    What does himself and Danny boy actually know about programming youth/chr radio tho? All these weekend fill-ins who are being touted by Healy as the next big thing have two links, what are you doing for the weekend? & Text me 51552.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,676 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Has James Kavanagh and Baz Ashmawy or Davina Devine any radio shows already, could be in contention?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    the last time there was this a mass of 2FM presenter exits in the same week or so, was in april 1999 when liam thompson revamped the weekend schedule with more focus on dance and new music. presenters Alan Corcoran, Peter Collins, Lorcan Murray, Michael McNamara (and i think suzamne duffy) left the station over a weekend. it was big news at the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Shan Doras


    I presume Liam Thompson was to John Clarke what Paul Russell is to Dan Healy? Curiously Thompson wasn't replaced when he left in 2002 and John Clarke then took full control of programming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,652 ✭✭✭its_steve116




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,866 ✭✭✭lisasimpson


    I've seen Baz name mentioned few times now. Didn't 2fm give him the boot years ago over a traffic offence before he hit the big time with his mammy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,652 ✭✭✭its_steve116


    What I think the new weekday daytime schedule will look like is changing over time, but at the moment I think it will be Tracy, Donncha & Carl, followed by Laura Fox, followed by one of the weekend presenters, followed perhaps by Jenny Greene reinstated on drivetime. I would have said Laura Fox would be the new female host of the breakfast show, but she's taking over Jen Z's slot instead.



  • Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭bureau2009


    Baz and Lucy had a weekend breakfast show on 2FM. It was hugely remarkable - remarkable for it's AWFULNESS! Very possibly the WORST EVER on RTE! Eventually it was dropped. I remember saying at the time it should be studied on media courses as how NOT to present radio!

    And then Baz goes off and gets an Emmy!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,329 ✭✭✭RoTelly



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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Dave Redmond


    Baz and Lucy replaced me, I pretty much had a qtr hour of 90k on Saturdays 7 to 9 and 72k on Sundays 7 to 10. I had 9 increases in a row on JNLR. John MC Mahon replaced John Clarke.... He, John Mc told me he wasn't renewing my contract. " I need your show" I questioned it pointing out the success of the weekend breakfast. He told me "around here your JNLR means nothing" within 3 months the weekend breakfast day part had lost 45k listeners........ with management like that is it any wonder that the good ship 2FM is still taking on water. John MC had turned 2fm into a national community station overnight. No disrespect but, the man was clearly out of his depth, whoever decided he was the one for the position as head of 2FM should be reprimanded too. Oddly given his poor performance he still works in RTÉ. RTÉ have let go many great jocks over the years because of agents getting their way.

    John Clarke had ideas that would have put the station at the top. His hands were tied.

    Radio bosses nowadays, the ones that have a qualification in accountancy and never sat in a studio are too distracted by social media. They fear it and think that putting an "influencer" behind a mic in a radio studio is the solution to gaining a larger audience. Radio as we all know here is a different animal. Intimacy, friendship and a one to one conversation. "how are all of "yous" today? that doesn't cut it…...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Shan Doras


    At least you can be proud of the fact that 14 years on, nobody has ever matched your figures on the slot and nobody has lasted more than a wet week doing that show either since you left. It's no wonder Alison Curtis on Today FM has such high JNLRS



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Shan Doras


    Some very queer programming choices were made during the John McMahon era, such as a two hour sports talk show on Saturday afternoons which was followed by a Dave fanning chat show, he also dropped the chart show iirc.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Dave Redmond


    Yup..... He hadn't a notion what he was at.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Shan Doras


    What exactly happened with John Clarke getting demoted as pd? Did he get the blame for Colm and Jim Jim not setting the country on fire ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭Expunge


    The management tier of RTE seems to be infested with this type. All failing upwards.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Dave Redmond


    The book very shortly after Marty Whelan was taken off showed an increase to 192k listeners, they didn't let his show bed in, it was turning around.….... Gerry Ryan was losing listeners brekki got the blame..... in my opinion Gerry in his time had gone from drinking pints of larger in 89 to drinking 50 year old brandy and smoking cigars rolled on the thighs of a Cuban virgin (to quote Alan Partridge) ..…what I'm saying is, he lost his connection with the ordinary Joe and Josephine. Too high brow for 2fm

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭XabiAlonso22


    Will Leahy should be brought back for ye afternoons



  • Registered Users Posts: 462 ✭✭Coolcormack1979


    when Gerry Ryan died,2fm died with him.it never recovered and 14 yrs later the 9-12 slot still called the Gerry Ryan slot



  • Registered Users Posts: 638 ✭✭✭bureau2009


    Laura Fox the future of broadcasting? Er…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,473 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    You really have to question what the point of 2fm is in it's current guise. Who are they targeting? I don't understand the appeal of music radio anymore, everyone has Spotify and uses that, so who is rushing to the radio to hear the latest songs?

    An interesting thing I saw on twitter the other day, I think it was Oisin Langan, ex Off the Ball suggested that 2fm become a proper sports station. Gavan Reilly (I think) commented that because of the quirks of licencing, they can do that without any outside approval needed.

    There seems to be a gap that could be exploited there. There is a lot of live sport not covered on irish radio. I'm thinking of Saturday Premier league. The fa Cup. European football. League of Ireland doesn't get a look in. Smaller sports like Irish basketball, AIL rugby stuff like that. Because none is broadcast in Ireland, you'd imagine the rights are not going to be pricey, and you could possibly use world feeds for the bigger events and justify costs for smaller events as public broadcasting. You'd also have the usual Saturday and Sunday sports which are currently on radio 1.

    Could such a venture with a smaller, but targeted audience be a runner? Makes way more sense to me than a rudderless general music station.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 96 ✭✭XabiAlonso22


    Laura Fox just won't get the numbers that Dave Moore gets, not a fan of his but seems to be the new women's favourite in the morning all the women love him. Laura Fox was a panic appointment for the morning slot.

    Im not actually sure what the Laura Fox show is really Jennifer was terrible but just felt like anytime I briefly listened to it was the presenters talking self indulgent nonsense Cormac Battle being the lead on that.

    Could Nicky Byrne and Jenny Greene get back together they were good in the mornings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,118 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    To be fair, Laura Fox has worked her way up a long the ladder of radio. She started off in local radio in Galway before moving to Dublin and getting some online radio gigs covering weekends and early breakfasts in RTE Pulse before eventually getting some part time slots at the same time in RTE 2FM and then moved her way into covering weekday slots and now has her own radio show.

    Is that not the exact thing that national broadcasters should be promoting, and broadcasters in general? Giving young people a chance to work their way up along and have a stab at it?

    She didn't get handed a slot because she went on a reality tv show and was a big name, or be a retired sports player, or someone who made a living by doing silly faces into a Snapchat filter, or have a rich daddy who can fund her becoming 'famous'.

    People giving out about Laura Fox getting the gig but if people like Laura don't get the gig, then the future of radio is just going to be more Doireann & Greg O Sheas. Who exactly do ye want to get that slot and how did they get their experience to deserve that?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,329 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    No 2FM afaik cannot just change complete direct under the Broadcasting Act 2009, under section 103 RTÉ would need to apply to the minister for such a change in its output.

    Also Sport is cover extensively on Radio and via Broadcaster Podcasts, this is a small market a full time Sports Radio station would fail and would not be in the interest of public service broadcasts.

    1. RADIO 1 and Newstalk at the weekend have massive coverage of sport
    2. OTB on Newstalk and 2FM's Game On give a total of 3 hours if not for every week day
    3. Local radio also provides massive coverage to Sport
    4. Even RnaG does
    5. RTÉ Sport have weekly podcasts for GAA, Rugby and Soccer.
    6. That is not to mention FTA TV sports coverage

    Sport is well covered.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Raiden Plump Stone


    She sounds/acts. like a hyperactive teenager when i heard her weekend show and from her social media, nice person but rabbiting on about tik tok/celebrities….could we just have music instead of banal nattering



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,329 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I was think that Dave would see a drop in his audience after Dermot left, but keeping the same numbers as before.

    Unless Laura is terrible I don't think she will dent Jenny Z's audience. IMO.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,617 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    He got rid of nikki hayes when she was on weekend afternoons (after being demoted from weekday afternoons). She was told just after she ended her Sunday show.

    Funnily enough John Mac's wife is long term RTE staffer evelyn o'rourke who as the newly appointed RTE News Entertainment correspondent, is reporting on the current 2fm exits !!!. you couldnt make this up.

    I liked your early breakfast weekday show Dave....but im not sure was that when Marty Whelan or when Colm and jim jim were on brekkie?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,763 ✭✭✭squonk


    I know it was mentioned earlier the Laura Fox worked her way up the ladder like the sort of people who used to work in 2FM long ago who started in they’re garage and came up through the pirates but, though I haven’t listened to her, doing a Quick Look up on who she is, it looks like yet another social media person with a podcast now finally getting the prime time gig. I just find this concerning as it seems to buy into the current style of presentation along the lines of “reach out on WhatsApp/X and tell me about your mad weekend!”

    Where I’m coming from is listening to 80s 2FM. times were different I know and phoning the hotline and maybe getting on air with Tony was as cool and immediate as it got but you had otherwise DJs who knew their music, knew their equipment and had a bit of personality. I still remember the odd sly remark from a dh after playing a song that kind of let you know they thought it was shít or that a band was taking the piss rereleasing a song now they’d had a big hit in the interim. You listened because the DJ was having the craic or was playing stuff you wanted to hear. Now radio sounds like a Spotify playlist interjected by some muppet telling you that you need to provide the craic.

    You need a big population for the “WhatsApp me with your craic” schtick. It’s something I think Sara Cox does particularly well but she has a big listenership. She also doesn’t rely on it completely. Here we just seem to put people in studios who can’t present a show by themselves without caller input making up a lot of it. If the jock is good at their job then the listenership will come. Talking shîte and not back announcing music for 2 hours doesn’t do it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Dave Redmond


    Early show was with Marty.... For about 7 months. Moved to weekend brekki then

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,118 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    Do you think that that social media persona is put on in order to 'get your name out there' (perhaps by RTE 2FM bosses), almost as a directive to gain attention so that people will tune in?

    Agree, I remember when radio DJs used to be the people to bring you new music and herald the new releases of up and coming bands. Not afraid to push the boat a bit at times and chance something out of the ordinary. For someone who talks about being this big metal head, Dave Moore wouldn't be someone to go and even think of playing a new track by Inhaler or Fontaines DC. I'm sure that someone like Dave Fanning played it in his evening slot, but the first person that I can remember playing Arctic Monkeys on daytime Irish radio was Ryan Tubridy! Imagine that genre-breaking decision nowadays! It's the main reason why I've completely deserted Today FM now. Their music selection is gone to sh1te and in my not-so-long time of 2FM, they seem to have somebit of a more diverse song list. I can't remember any of their 'DJs' playing something new in a long long time. Fair enough, play your Stick Season, but it doesn't need to be played 8 times a day, every day. Throw in some diversity.

    Laura's weekend show did have a new artist of the week, often accompanied with an interview with the new artist. I hope she keeps something of that ilk up.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭Shan Doras




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,741 ✭✭✭zoobizoo


    Good for Laura that she was worked her way to the top..... unfortunately, she doesn't have a distinctive enough voice or personality much like most other young presenters these days.

    BuT that may make no difference to younger listeners. In fact, I think every comment on here should list their age in this thread because we're probably all auld lads on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,763 ✭✭✭squonk


    Thsts fair! Guilty as charged lol! I’m old enough to remember the late 80s when Gerry Ryan was doing nights and making a name for himself with the Lambo incident. The closest I’ve heard to that type of radio I loved back in the day lately was Mike Moloney’s Musuc 1 Ireland back in 2021/22 That was staffed with oul lads too.

    That being said, I don’t see the real need for teen to 30 radio these days. For my generation it was to hear songs you liked, the only outlet unless you bought an album or single. Now for the relatively small price of €5-€10/month you have access to any music you want. I don’t really know why you’d want to listen to some influencer spouting rubbish between songs in that case. What’s also missing is exposure to different genres. Some of my musical taste developed from DJs playing stuff they liked that was outside of the mainstream so the time. I mightn’t have liked some of it but they were music guys so I respected what they were doing and some of their choices grew on me. I suppose now at least if you hear a band or genre mentioned you have complete access to a back catalogue. There still isn’t any substitute for being forced to sit through a song you wouldn’t normally listen to because you liked the DJ so wanted to hear what they play next. That’s how music grows on you imho.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,329 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Probably, but we are noticing that the DJ's / Hosts that just left aren't far off being 'aul wans, everyone gets 'aul. And also I'd argue that 2FM has probably being getting the same complaints on boards for the last 10 to 20 years, nothing new has really changed.

    I think if anything this clear out should allow RTÉ 2FM become younger and start to introduce new music and new sounds. But you shouldn't have your eye on influencers you should be looking for people who have knowledge of current music.

    This could be an issue around producers in 2FM also and researchers.

    I don't know Doireann or Jenny Z musical acumen, they are TV/Radio presenters, outside of that they are limited IMO. That is not to say that either aren't good at their job but it is to say that they probably know as much about music as I do, which is very little.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,763 ✭✭✭squonk


    I think hiring “names” abd “influencers” for music radio is like tge weather on RTE ONE during the day. The people doing it are presenters. Not meteorologists so are reading from a prepared script. If things change quickly and the script isn’t updated, they can’t offer meaningful input whereas a meteorologist presenter can think on their feet with the knowledge they hade and give a better forecast. If your producer is picking the music and you are just in there as a presenter pressing play on the next track, it shows. If you don’t have a knowledge of the music you’re playing or a connection with it, you’re just filling in time. The audience will twig this as well. Maybe that’s what they want but if you’re purporting to be a music driven station then you need to get the listeners with an interest in music on side.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,329 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I am not saying you should fully rely on your producers as a presenter, but the research and producers should be able to provide you with needed back up, they also might suggest new items that the presenter might not be interested in.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,763 ✭✭✭squonk


    Oh absolutely. It’s a team effort. Just as you wouldn’t expect a listener to be 100% behind every track played, you wouldn’t expect that from a presenter either. You do know the presenters who are generally into music though. I’d say part of every jock’s job involves playing some stuff they think is pants either because if the producer or general popularity.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,460 ✭✭✭Tork


    Has anybody asked young people what they'd like? Or is it a case of old fogies deciding on their behalf? Young people have a very different relationship to radio, to music and to presenters than we do. To them, it's as easy to watch a TikTok video, stream music or listen to a podcast as it is to listen to the radio. Is hiring influencers to produce more of the same but also with music really the way to go?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,763 ✭✭✭squonk


    Well that’s what I’m wondering. If you can stream any music you want now, what’s the point of radio? Us old timers needed the radio to hear music and there was no other outlet bar buying albums or recording off the radio at a pinch.

    Maybe the “WhatsApp me with your mad stories” schtick is what they want. I don’t know, you’ll see ones of mad stuff on TikTok also. So yes, I don’t know what young audiences want. Thing is, Dan Healy doesn’t seem to have an idea either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,460 ✭✭✭Tork


    I wonder would young people still like an old-skool radio show where the presenters still have some say in what they play? In todayspeak they call it curation I think. Back in my day, they were radio shows where you got to know and like the DJs, and kind of knew what their musical taste was. Now it seems like there's a limited and repetitive playlist, punctuated by presenters doing "mad stuff" and jabbering on for ages. But maybe that's what the young people of today want 🤷‍♂️



  • Registered Users Posts: 123 ✭✭Lord Nelson


    What young people or listeners want is irrelevant. Content is driven by what the advertising agencies dictate to reach the audience they want for their customers product. Unfortunately, your average tweeny in the agency is as clueless as the so called programmers in RTE.



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