Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

How are they tenants?

You keep posting nonsense comments like this, is that what the laughing emoji is supposed to be for?

Who exactly is their landlord? Who are they paying rent to?

Im aware of license agreement from the rent a room scheme, basically someone renting a room in your home is classed as a licensee and can be asked to leave at any time, the normal tenant/landlord rules don't apply.

I could be wrong but I would imagine if you ask someone to leave your home and they refuse you can call the gardai for assistance?

If someone refuses to leave a hotel room they no longer have a booking for the gardai would be called.

I would imagine people staying in direct provision accommodation are the same?

A licensee is a person who occupies accommodation under license. Licensees can arise in all sorts of accommodation but most commonly in the following four areas; 

• Persons staying in hotels, guesthouses, hostels, etc;
• Persons sharing a house/ apartment with its owner e.g. under the ‘rent a room’ scheme or ‘in digs’;
• Persons occupying accommodation in which the owner is not resident under a formal license arrangement with the owner where the occupants are not entitled to its exclusive use and the owner has continuing access to the accommodation and/or can move around or change the occupants; and 
• Persons staying in rented accommodation at the invitation of the tenant. 

As regards more waste ....

and in all fairness if you read my post I was asking that very question . Who is supporting those who are handing out tents ? Then my guess is Lighthouse is Government funded . Then the Government / Council / Multi agency whoever are paid to dump these brand new tents

Anyone involved including The Lighthouse cafe man ( sorry his name escaped me ) should be questioning why on one hand they are handed out and then destroyed after a few days. If I ran a charity handing out good tents or whatever knowing full well they will be destroyed and dumped I would be questioning why and questioning the sheer waste and burden on the environment .
Charities need also to be mindful of waste and question this

and DO NOT be fooled! On Newstalk and the Brendan O Connor show today the contributors and panelists mentioned "our international obligations"!! It is not going away! Do not be fooled by electioneering!

Exactly and it's why Tiglin/ Ligthouse/ Aubrey and others should be defunded. If they can't use the taxpayers money appropriately, then cut them off.

Another well used line today was, immigrants will be paying for our pensions so up can continue to retire at 65, and industry needs immigration, no distinction being made between people arriving legally with visas, and illegally with nothing

They are definitely lazy. Have you ever heard of a 'hard working' criminal who wants to better himself and is prepared to put in the hours? Most want big bucks for the least hours worked (hence the appeal of the drugs trade, shoplifting, stolen cars, burglaries, muggings, armed robberies and so on).

This idea that criminals would actively want to move to another country and then be stuck in the asylum process for potentially years on €39 a week and with many limitations imposed on them doesn't really stack up.

For sure, there are foreign criminals who end in Irish jails but they represent only a very small percentage of non nationals. We literally have the numbers that around half a million non nationals are in full employment and paying taxes.

tenant” means the person for the time being entitled to the occupation of premises and, where the context so admits, includes a person who has ceased to be entitled to that occupation by reason of the termination of his tenancy;

What is your point you're trying to make here?

I stated in my last post that the tenant is the state, not an IP applicant who happens to be allocated to that accommodation.

'lazy and stupid and unmotivated' was your original statement.

I suggest you reread my reply and desist with your disinformation which were someone here to believe could lead to adverse outcomes if they underestimated such a person in an adversarial situation..

Most likely tourists or workers then I'd imagine.

Probably working in the UK on a visa but didn't get the right extension to come here.

What a waste of AGS resources.

If criminals are hard working, intelligent and very motivated, why on earth aren't they working 9-5 and earning €30k-€50k a year like the rest of us? It's an employees' market after all and they wouldn't even need to risk going to jail.

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As said in an earlier contribution the head of Tiglin stated on RTE radio this past week that he was asked to supply tents by the Dept of Integration and they would pay the tab.

Tiglin is a homeless charity and helps the homeless. Why defund an organisation that assists Irish and incomers homeless alike. We have Irish tent dwellers too.

It’s actually another govt entity that is responsible for destroying perfectly serviceable tents paid for by taxpayers. Any chance of some joined up interdepartmental thinking ??

This problem is not going to go away it seems. The use of vacant office space could surely provide tent dwellers with summer and winter shelter, with toilet facilities on site and out of the elements. This going green space to green space is inhuman and will have to end once what we call our summer is over.