Sinn Fein and how do they form a government dilemma

Here you go Pureza  eoin.obroin@oireachtas.ie

I did't suggest selling the ground on which the house was built and paid for by the occupant(s) would be compulsory

There would be no 'cost to bear' in terms of the site value,it would remain owned by the state

Unless you are talking opportunity cost ie some other more lucrative use for the land being forever gone

Noone should care about that when the priority is affordable housing

In any case, it is proposed by O'Broin that the leasehold property cannot be sold but can be passed on to subsequent generations of the same family.

you may need to review your understanding of what they are proposing.

At the point of future sale, the covenant also obliges the homeowner to sell to another
affordable purchaser at the future affordable purchase price, which would be the initial price paid
index linked for inflation and home improvements.

I see that now. So you can only sell to another affordable housing applicant??

It's even worse than I thought! Thanks for clarifying.

LOL.

The Greens will have a legacy long after this government is gone. They have done far more good for the nation than SF has done in their (fake) 50 odd years of being a party.

SF still trending down...

It takes a special type of party and leadership to blow a 16% lead on your next rival party while doing absolutely nothing. They are being found out big time by the electorate.

RedC SF peaked at 36% in May 2022.

2 years later FG and SF are neck and neck.

All this while they have had to make not one unpopular decision.

Interesting times ahead.

I still think they will get 3 MEPs elected and they will increase their councilers on 2019, but the GE is a real concern for them now. Echos of 'Gilmore for Taoiseach'.

From an overall majority to being a bit party to a grander coalition.

The boys in West Belfast will be busy over the next few months in trying to come up with a new strategy.

My guess is that they will try and come down hard on immigration, and their left-wing voters will have a choice, stick with them as they hate FF/FG more or ditch SF to go to Labor or the SD's.

Simon Harris is turning the screw on the immigration issue and SF are following him like a puppy looking for its mother.

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2023/jan/16/leasehold-nightmare-why-owning-a-council-flat-could-land-you-with-a-wipeout-bill

Fantasy or nightmare?

A relic of British Landlordism brought to you by Eoin O'Broin.

He's simply not living in the real world, he envisions an affordable housing estate which will be immune from any rises and falls in the rest of the surrounding housing market. He also assumes that ordinary workers John and Mary will be happy in their affordable home forever, won't split up or stop paying their mortgage.

They won't be able to move if the rest of the market rises, as they're forbidden from building up any equity in their own home.

What's more moronic though, is if in the event of either a crash or prices in surrounding areas levelling off through more houses being built, no one will want to buy in an 'affordable' estate unless at a substantial discount.

Which leads to an issue with the covenant, which dictates that the selling price will consist of the initial price paid, so does that mean you won't be able to sell below that level?

My guess is that they will try and come down hard on immigration…

Simon Harris is turning the screw on the immigration issue and SF are following him like a puppy looking for its mother.

I don't think it's politically feasible for them to pivot to the hard right on immigration, I'm actually surprised they have gone as far as they have in that direction. About as much as they can realistically do in that regard is as you say mark FG fairly closely.

Of course that's not going to be nearly enough to satisfy the angry nativists who had made up a big chunk of their support up until recently, and on the other hand it's likely to alienate a section of the Irish Times reading classes who they have been courting. Best they can hope for is the issue falls a bit down the political agenda by the time of the election.

Yeh sure.
It isnt hard to spot party members of Ff or FG on here who suffer from the arrogance of power.
It’s those who see no role for an opposition.

Who think they should be left to govern alone with no interference.
The opposition has a significant role imo and as much a duty as the government in a democracy or republic.

Someone who thinks an opposition party doesn’t leave a legacy is suffering from arrogance.

The future affordable price. Who decides that?

Are participants in this scheme going to have the house they paid for priced for resale by a committee?

I gather the same way the current affordable price has been decided, which is from thin air.

No, surely there will be a commissariat, I mean committee, to decide.

I specifically referred to posters, which would include said party members on here. You can be a poster and a party member at the same time, no?

There are no official party spokespersons on here fulfilling that role in an official capacity So I'm.strugglimg to see the relevance or import of the concern.

As for reading party policies more closely, yes you are right the detail is very important. The more I read the more horrified with Eoin OBroin I get !

Essentially E O'B is starting from a socialist belief that deriving equity and a return on investing in property is a sin, and that anyone buying one of these affordable homes is an ordinary worker who is happy to only have the use of it and pass it on to the next ordinary worker. There is a reason he wears those Trotskyite glasses.

What he seems to have overlooked though is these ordinary workers will need a mortgage from those capitalist bankers who will derive a return at the expense of the workers while they will have none. Unless there's going to be a state provided interest free loan?