BRITISH GENERAL ELECTION - 4TH JULY

Those sentences mean nothing, completely empty words with 0 substance.

Answer the question.

They haven't been the most sensible party in quite a while. They elected Boris Johnson & Liz Truss as leaders of their party after all.

I'd argue or agree with your point, but I literally have no idea what you mean by "Russian fascism" (I believe I know what Russian fascism is) but despite repeated attempts, you have chosen to not accept any definition of "fascism" offered to you and have refused or ignored requests to share how you would define fascism. It makes it very hard to discuss anything with you.

And before you ask me for my definition of Russian fascism, I'm going to play schoolyard rules, and say, "I asked first"

Not disagreeing with you there, but electing a leader is one thing, policy in the face of a general election is another.

With regards to the national service policy, they're either so out of touch that they thing 18-22ish year olds are young conservatives who have lost their way and are pining for some national pride and good old fashion discipline, or they've given up on them altogether and this is a play for older voters who think the youth of today need a bit of a kick-up-the-backside authority and this should put them back in line.

My money's on the later, but either way it'll backfire because the 18-22 demographic aren't going to like being forced to like something and work for free or they're preaching to the converted who are already going to vote for them anyway.

I honestly think they could be heading for a 2011 FF-type meltdown if they keep going down this road.

***£120k….

between £100 - £120k your personal credits get eroded, and you need to do some "efficient accounting" to keep any of that 20k… (introduced by the Tory's)

But yes, £120k upwards, Tory policy works very very well for you.

I would say Sunak could see that the 1922 committee was going to give him the shove before the election so he did a two fingered salute and said **** it this will put manners on the bastards.

I really can't fathom how stupid this lot are.

All they needed to do to gain even a couple of points in the polls was to announce anything that would put a few pennies back in the punters pockets.

It's bonkers

And yet, there are an awful lot of Tory voters on a fraction of that that are dyed in the wool. Intent, time after time, to continually vote against their best interests.

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To be precise, there were 1,462 cases investigated. The great bulk of these related to complaints about campaigning, and about false statements or other irregularities in party registrations or candidate nominations. None of these problems will be in any way addressed by voter ID requirements. Whoever told you that voter ID laws would prevent expenditure of time on these issues is making you look foolish, so you should probably stop listening to them.

Furthemore, the outcome of the 1,462 investigations was a grand total of 2 convictions for actual irregulaties in voting — and one of those was for voting twice in the voter's own name, an abuse which wouldn't have been prevented by an ID requirement. Over the five years there was just one conviction for personation.

To the dispassionate observer, then, it's clear that there's no evidence of any problem in the UK with personation that might be successfully addressed with voter ID requirements. Who has managed to convince you that there is? How did they do this? More to the point, why? Possibly you are the unwitting victim of an effort to beat up a panic about electoral fraud to try to shore up support for voter ID laws that have been introduced for reasons that have nothing to do with genuine concerns about electoral fraud. You need to become a bit less gullible, CT.