Champions Cup final thread

By that logic, we would all support Leinster in every game including against our home province because them winning is good for the ireland team, because they have most of the players.

There's either a difference between club and country, or not.

Leinster and Ireland are different things, vastly,

you don’t see United fans cheering for Liverpool in Europe because they have English players

We had Clermont fans with us in the ground cheering for Leinster because that’s how rivalry works.

Some Leinster fans are the only who have this need to be loved, it makes no sense

Did you meet any Castres fans

For a second there I read that as Victor Matfield. I was like WTH is syd going on about.

Not Sure anyones mentioned hating have they? I just dont support leinster

The sad reality it that it would have been reviewed and a good chance of a red if Doris had stayed down. At what stage do players start staying down football style if these aren’t picked up by the officials? I’d suspect Liam Williams for example would probably have chosen not to get up if he had been in the same situation. Interesting to see if this will be cited.

Rewatching it, I'm amazed that after that Dan Sheehan break, firstly that Roumat sticking his hand out is considered a fair attempt to catch the ball. It's a fully extended straight arm and hits it down. He doesn't even juggle it. Secondly, it's not considered a knock-on, although that is more marginal but it's clear to me that the ball goes forward from his hands then bounces backwards. Add that it's a potential try scoring opportunity. Yellow card all day imo. Very lucky. If you remove Roumat altogether if after his foul play, there's even an argument for a penalty try but it's tenuous as there is cover. I'm biased though of course.

It was never part of rugby. The inter pros back in the day were brutal, physical encounters but afterwards we all shook hands and were friends again. We didn't care about any other matches the other teams had and if we met somebody playing in one we'd wish them the best of luck.

In the stands there was a little bit of jibe but it was always respectful.

So yes I'm saying it was never part of rugby.

If it was a knock-on, then it would have been a yellow. It was knocked back (even though it was forward in relation to the momentum of the player), so there's nothing wrong with it. Still wouldn't have been surprised if it was called as a knock-on, though.

If there’s ever a time where you might not get carded for a challenge like that, it’s probably in the first few phases of a final. If it was seen it would have been a tough moment for Carley.

It’s further evidence of how small the margins were. If Leinster got even just a penalty there, they clear their lines and probably don’t go 3-0 down so early. As it was, they cleared to half way and Toulouse won a penalty and kicked the 3 from the subsequent lineout in which they had the throw in.

On another day that tackle is called and Leinster get a shot for 3 (more than likely would have been turned down) or Roumat is binned for his slap down of the Sheehan pass or McCarthy is awarded a try as Ntamack striped the ball from Jenkins which isn’t a knock on in the laws.

I’m sure Toulouse will have had similar moments where the call didn’t go their way. It was a superb game full of drama. Not sure I’ll ever watch it again though 😂

If, as an example, Kerry were playing Dublin in the All Ireland final, and you were a Cork supporter, would you rather see a Munster team or a Leinster team win ?.

A friend of mine is steeped in GAA, loves his own club & Limerick hurling. When another club for the county got through to the club championship finals, I asked him about going, his reply, he couldn't give two flying fcuks.

This must support another team is nonsense, some do, some don't, others blow it out of all proportion

I’ve been a long time supporter of Leinster and Irish rugby, I’d never expect supporters of another team or province to jump in behind the blue and give the full weight of their support.
I do however think it’s beyond the pale to actively support literally any other team that plays against us and revel in our misery when we lose.
Bitterness and bile have no place in the sport and having a pint and some fun with opposition fans is what makes our sport great to follow and travel with.
The first time I came across hatred in the sport was in Edinburgh in ‘09 and I was quite taken aback at how forceful the feeling of hatred was. I was left in no doubt at the time that it came from a sense of entitlement from that cohort who had travelled despite their team not being in the final.
Every group of supporters has their fair share of ersewholes but if I’m being honest, that cohort and their descendants from ‘09 seem to do bitterness and bile at a rate far greater than any other set of fans I’ve met.
That being said, they’re still well outnumbered by the sound ones.