Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

I'd forgotten about that. I got impression the threat to Israel was coming from elsewhere than Gaza now?

(Unless media reporting on it have this wrong) it is first rocket fire deep into Israel Hamas has managed for a long time.

IMO, that would have made it somewhat significant. I'd say it is likely Israelis had tabs on any Hamas leaders they targetted for a while (Gaza must be the most surveilled location on the Earth), just decided now was a good time to do the trade of killing some random "animals" to get the Hamas members as response to the rockets.

It certainly sends a strong message to likes of the ICJ, ICC etc. as well (f-ck you, f-ck your statements, your "laws" etc, we do what we want!).

So, Ireland can bluster but Israel can't. Good to know.

Total in that last attack has risen -

"At least 45 people have been killed,
including women and children, in an Israeli air strike on a camp for
displaced Palestinians in the southern Gaza city of Rafah, the Hamas-run
health ministry says.

Videos from the scene in the Tal al-Sultan area on Sunday night showed a large explosion and intense fires burning."

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0kkqkngnedo

Netanyahu says deadly Rafah airstrike a 'tragic mishap'

Benjamin Netanyahu has described the deadly Israeli airstrike on a camp for displaced Palestinians in the southern Gaza city of Rafah as a “tragic mishap”.

“We are investigating the case, that is our policy,” Netanyahu said in a speech at the Knesset on Monday, Haaretz reported.

The Israeli leader added that “for us, every uninvolved [being hurt] is a tragedy,” it added. He claimed the incident occurred “despite our best efforts not to hurt them”.

Tens of thousands of tragedies. You'd think one might change tack after the first ten or ten thousand.

They're really taking the piss bombing people in tents and then saying they made an effort not to hurt them. If this was any other country, they'd never get away with bombing hospitals and refugees to get a target. Sure wouldn't anywhere in America be a valid target if any soldier was out shopping or at the cinema.

No one has the 'right' to commit war crimes. Was someone granting them this right?

Do you approve of Israel's use of war crimes in its fight with Hamas since they haven't surrendered yet?

It's what the US has been effectively doing for the last few decades.

Then contrast between , in the past 100 years, the number of Jews who've been murdered in antisemitic crimes throughout the world with the number of Palestinians who've been killed in violent incidents - in wars and in massacres by some Israeli Jews.

In the Middle East, most Arabs who are killed in wars are killed by other Arabs and most Muslims who are killed in those wars are killed by other Muslims.

Well Israel commits war crimes practically every day so your support of Israel is a bit odd considering you don't approve of war crimes.

You either didn't understand my post or are deliberately misrepresenting what I said. I did not say Palestinians are being persecuted, I said the Israelis are deliberately targeting civilians, journalists, medical workers, aid workers etc. and deliberately destroying infrastructure hence the accusations of genocide and ethnic cleansing. The deliberate targeting is an objective fact and we will have to wait to see what the judgement is on the accusations of genocide. The rest of your post is whataboutery based on the initial strawman so I'm not engaging with it.

Intention to kill innocents in the IDF operation has not been proven.

The Israel-Palestine conflict is connected to the other Middle Eastern conflicts because the Assad regime has waged war against Israel and supported terrorists who attacked or tried to attack Israeli interests (e.g. Hindawi used an innocent Irishwoman in an attempt to destroy an Israeli airliner), the Iranian ayatollahs support Hezbollah and the Houthis have also been attacking Israeli and Western interests.

The irony is that Shia extremist groups - the Iranian ayatollahs, Hezbollah, the Houthis, militiamen in Iraq - support Hamas, which is Sunni and thus would, if it had the chance, do the same to innocent Shia Muslims as what ISIS did in Iraq 10 years ago.

What crimes are newborn children guilty of in your mind?

Actually, we are talking about the conflict between the Arabs and the Jews, that is nearly as old as Abraham.

Al Jazeera had a documentary about it the other day, even the children in Gaza play 'Arabs and Jews' with their toy guns and toy rpg rocket launchers made out of garbage.

The children on the street can see the big picture, can you? Or does it suit you to remain wilfully blind to the bigger picture?

So, the US Vetoed 'don't do war crimes' or some proof of such? I think not. Oh, and if the US protected south africa, was it using its veto to countermand 'war crimes.