The 2 Johnnies are leaving 2FM

Would any of the podcasters want to share any of the income from the podcasts with RTE. Doubt it.

At least in the case of The Two Johnnies.They were resonably successful on their own. They built up a following that RTE hopped would tune in to their radio show. All the radio show did was drive traffic to their podcast.

Doireann is a little different. I belive she started with Instagram/TikTok/Snapchat with a so so following and was picked up by RTE to make skits and shows for the player. Then gave her bigger and bigger projects. Where RTE messed up was with RTE building up her profile, then letting her do her side gigs and let her use RTE to promotote them. They should have tied her side projects to purely RTE stuff when they had her sign on board. No podcast, no live shows, etc. Unless they were tied to RTE.

Same with Lottie Ryan and Jennifer Z. Sure you can do a podcast. But under the RTE umbrella.

I know it seems strange. Maybe we are out of touch but I recently went along to an Alan Clarke show and I was left bemused after it. I thought he would have a big section of it for his own act but it turned out he was just an MC for various separate acts that he pulled together. Felt more like a variety show. A full house of 3000 so hard to argue with that but I felt it was something I wouldn't bother with again.

These things work both ways too… the 2 Johnnies would have brought a lot of people with them to RTE given their following. Same goes for Doireann, if you're in her demographic and you enjoy following her on Instagram, chances are you'll listen to her over Ian Dempsey when sticking on the radio.

A lot of bitterness in some of these comments I think. Do people expect presenters to turn away sponsorship opportunities or freebies? A perk of your job is exactly that, a perk… and comes with the territory when you get to a certain level of visibility.

If RTE are changing the rules, then that's up to them and the presenters can respond accordingly. It seems to me that they are.

What is it they say. You will never go broke playing to the lowest common demominator. I think their material is trash. But they do it better then any of the other GAA/Breakfast roll crowd. Gotta respect the hustle.

BBC sounds makes no commerical money so I don't know how RTE could do it, some of the bbc sounds poscasts are C rate irish stars, if RTE created similar content I think most people on here would have the pitchforks out.

The presenters build a profile and build the stations ratings which is their part of the deal, and to be honest the 2 fm brand is worth very little, those that left had profiles long before joining the station. Ask your average person on thee street who Tracy Clifford is, sure everyone must know her since 2fm built her profile…..

"hiring presenters as staff not contractors"- the possibility of having underperforming staff on the book forever sounds like a great plan.

Anyway the podcasts are owned by the creators and have nothing to do with RTE.

Off course an employer owns IP developed when working for employer on company time/resources.

Could you provide me of an example were an product was developed in an employees private time/resources/computers and then subsequent claimed by an employer? if it as common as you claim…..

And one of them tried to mock Ray Darcy during that interview.

She's insufferable - on today about the new love island starting. It's not diverse enough for Lottie. I thought to myself she's saying all the right stuff, give her the gig rte!

Without naming names. I can think of one RTE lifer who does a lot of work for the GAA outside or RTE. They are very reluctant to critize the GAA on air and ofter push back when other presenters do.

It wasn't my suggestion. I don't think it is a good idea either.

I am not able to share private contracts. But if we were to take a stray poll here. I am sure we would find that most people have that clause written into their contract. Any IP created during the time you are employed by a company including in personal time belongs to the company.

Not true to say RTE is irrelevant. 2FM may not be getting the numbers it would like but RTE 1 shows are still kicking ass with listening figures.

Well there was some talk about how if they ended up drained from too much work (at 2fm) then they wouldn’t be able to give a good show. On that note the other Johnny mentioned Ray. Brendan wasn’t having any of it and the Johnny tried to take it back, saying “we love Ray”.

Hi loshie.

I forget which show it was mentioned on, but it's the format of the show that people like, rather than the personality. If you swapped out presenters of the likes of say Morning Ireland with other competent presenters, people would still tune in.

The two boys were just using RTE as a vehicle for their self promotion, and when that no longer suited, they were gone.

Maybe, in time, they can hit the Mrs Browns Boys sweet spot and make a cottage industry out of telling the same jokes again and again.