Campervans in Marina area?

I think complaining about it is wrong, there's a cost of living crisis and a homeless crisis in the country. A business owner, someone who creates employment in the city has lost somewhere to park up now because of busybodies who aren't really bothered by it but still start threads and complain to the council. Maybe if you knew what it's like to set up a business and survive the first few years of start up you'd have kept your mouth shut.

Have you seen these photos?

Have I seen them ? no but I don't expect my local counsillor to be carrying them in his pocket if they've been sent, presumably in confidence to the council. I have known him for 27 years however and he's a very trusted family friend.

This thread is becoming more toxic than the Lee, its gone from discussion to personal sniping

You're welcome.

I don't think the thread should be closed just because you got your way and now you don't like the way it's going now. You can simply stop contributing.

Lads, I'm not doing anything wrong except calling you out on mistruths. Nobody in their right mind would empty a cartridge full of human waste from a riverbank, they'd do it where nobody can see them. It's a fabrication, an anecdote about hard evidence of which there are none. And @sporina if you don't like the way the thread is going don't contribute. You started the thread and now overnight camping is banned. Of course people with Campervans will react.

That business owner employs locals and generates revenue in the area, there's a cost of living crisis and a housing crisis and people are happy to turf honest local workers out of and area because they don't like the look of the Campervans.

As predicted earlier on in the thread, people will make up stories to get rid of them. That has happened.

Are you going to say you saw the campervan too in your next post and that it wasn't from a boat or caravan? I've seen plenty of boat owners dumping in the sea and on rivers!

The car parks are for short term use only - whether you work in the area or not, the car parks are not for people to live in. What's so hard to understand?

Double post.

None of which casts any doubt on the veracity of what I said I saw. It was easy to predict that l would say there was a campervan nearby because it was obvious from what I said that there most likely was one nearby - it being a conversation about camoervans, and all. I have no more interest in defending what I said I saw. Choose not to believe it. I really couldn't care less at this point.

So are we happier with the doggers down there or the campers?

That’s ironic seeing that the crux of this thread is to curtail peoples holidays. Furthermore, I wouldn’t be cheeky enough to suggest what you obviously need in life but saying that I get lots of breaks and holidays including a yearly excursion to your stunning Cork City and county!

I'm not slagging you at all. And of course we need regulations, but banning overnight campers from a carpark in a tourist area is overboard. You said yourself it didn't bother you that much, but you still persisted. Now tourists and locals, including a business employer are negatively affected.

Yes. "Carpark", not "Carparkforlessthanoneday". As I said at the start of this thread I live close to a carpark where plenty of campers park overnight, it's not a problem. Look, you got your way, they're banned now, you want the thread closed but you keep engaging to justify your actions.

One reason the council may be loath to create a purpose built year-round campervan park, and why they are so scarce as to be next to non existent here, is that it would attract 'the cousins'.

Whether someone saw toilets being emptied in the Lee or not, the question does remain, where are they being emptied ?

Not really if you think about it. Campervans represent eco-tourism and adventure to some people. Frequently they offer a sustainable holiday option. With limited resources like water, gas, and electricity, individuals are compelled to use only what is truly necessary. Furthermore, if the electricity source is renewable, such as solar power, the sustainability aspect is even stronger. They're certainly easier on the environment in ferries than taking flights or booking in to hotels.

Furthermore! They tend to have a very long road life, people look after them and don't replace them every two years like people do with SUV's.

So it's not really the "special kind of load of bollicks" you thought it was.

I could have resorted to that sort of posting when you first complained about campervans in the carpark sporina but, thankfully mature debate is the route I & others normally go down on boards.ie. This sort of quoted misrepresentation of me is the last resort of a failed argument.

If this is all you have I'd suggest you simply leave the thread and let it take it's course. You won the battle and got tourists banned from overnight parking but you lost the debate. Your post isn't in keeping with the thread, it's childish and juvenile, this is the Cork City thread, not after hours.

Rich people problems.

They might get their money back, with interest if they sold them on, as people can't find houses to live in!

No point debating with some people on here Rambo, the nuance of anything seems to be lost on many.

FWIW - I think the Council thought "we're getting a few complaints from a certain area of the city, better do something about it but it better be easy to do" and thus the letter outlining that no vans are allowed to park overnight.

They took the easy option rather than designate a number of spaces for campers, put a 2 night maximum on stays, maybe even provide waste disposable and electricity for a fee (like in Cobh).

As usual, the City Council took the easy way out to the detriment of tourism in the city. Again.

I can only hope they follow through on providing a proper camping area close to the city as they said in that letter but would you be holding your breath?

Yeah, separate limited camper bays would have been the answer, but as I said it's easier to negatively shut down than to positively change or improve. But you never know, Cork City Council might do something as people lobby.

I see cynical attempts to get the thread shut down by turning it to a childish charade when refused to have it closed by the mods. Hopefully the mods keep it open and we see what happens regarding parking for campers in the area.

I'm not "going wrong" at all Sporina, this has been addressed already in post post number 89:

"Way before you started your negative complaining & targeting for no particular reason we were positively lobbying & asking for solutions & aires in the hope we'd get it done in numerous locations before the busybodies ruined it. Unfortunately, as explained numerous times to you it's easier to shut down than create and you got your way."

Please read the posts before posting. It stops people from repeating the same stuff you've been told already.