Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Any who equates somebody volunteering for a migrant or homeless organisation with the likes of Derek Blighe is not thinking straight .

Volunteering is the backbone of a lot of charities .

What have any of our paaatriots done for their communities

There is a history of decent people gaining experience in areas that cannot afford to find them until they can get a funded job / or when they finish their studies And nothing wrong with that

And she is a student so you are wrong again .

What have any of our paaatriots done for their communities .? Nothing , except encourage violence and leech off our social welfare .

She and other volunteers should not be for discussion on a SM forum

It's a low ball ,even for this thread .

There's a gaa forum on here, the players are all volunteers, should that not be discussed?

Good questions but what was the answer?

Immigration to Ireland in CA is another thread but across multiple other threads the narrative and spammy type tit for tat posting is evident.

Olivia is quite literally interviewed everytime there's a piece about the canal. So you either don't watch the news every night or you've been very unlucky to miss her regular cameo.

Given how much effort online Surgirl commits to this subject I find it suspicious shes never heard of her.

But even supposedly not knowing or hearing of her she still managed a defensive POV discussing her.

I have watched the news on the canals several times - very repetitive and boring to be honest - but I took no notice of her in that I googled her earlier and found zero recognition. I will watch out for her. I have just started watching the F1 documentary on Netflix so I am often behind the curve!

Talking about those particular ones that are running for election which I referred to iny post ?

Like Derek' kick a dog' Blighe and other lovely characters like him .

"There are plenty of working class Irish people btw who don't have the Dublin 4 accent, who might even be what my dear mother would call 'common' but who have done plenty for their communities."

Nowhere were 'ordinary people 'mentioned by me or did I say that it was one particular type of person volunteering

That would be your twist .

And that is BS.

There are people from every group in society volunteering

Students, retired people , young people, looking for something good to do , or to add to their CVs , people who have time before they collect their kids ...

But you mention D4 accents ..so is it her accent now and not just her qualifications that are the issue ?

Not replying further on this.

Why couldn’t they do it 1/2 years ago though when it was obvious to anyone with a critical eye what was happening? No, they just dismissed it as far right talk, and their inaction encouraged thousands more to arrive in that time. They shouldn’t just “be moving in the direction of reforming the asylum system”, they should already have moved at this stage!

Do we really want these incompetent people in charge when they have already proven they have no foresight and can’t see what’s going on around them?

I can't be responsible for whatever " you infer ' from my posts .

The fact is I clearly referenced Derek Blighe and his colleagues .

Mentioned him specifically .

They are a bunch of ne'er do wells .

Maybe their supporters are the salt of the earth ..I don't know nor did I comment about it .

That would be you conflating the two .

As to the accent come on , you are being disingenuous here !

Why mention it if it doesn't irk you somehow... or the whole ' common people ' doing volunteering paragraph , what is that saying , especially when I did not talk about any of that in my posts ?

Sounds like there is a bit of a chip there .

If we are talking about inferences ...

They have definitely been very lax around the issue of asylum, treated it with no urgency and lacked a cohesive long term plan.

I'd still say 'better late than never' though. It seems Harris is taking the issue a lot more seriously than Varadkar or Micheál Martin did.

Harris became Taoiseach and immediately started talking tough on asylum. But how do we know he is not sincere? As higher education minister, he would have had zero influence on the matter.

Plus, there is an actual general election coming in six to nine months, meaning he is hardly likely to change tack at any point.

I agree. Harris is well able to talk the talk but has yet to prove he can walk the walk. He is fast talking and sharp but on the immigration issue that doesn't mean he will deliver or that he even wants to deliver! He is all about the EU and impressing on the world stage. This is just optics coming up to elections. His tune will change if FG stay in power.

For example what on earth is the plan with the hoards of migrants tents on the canals? Move them twice a week to Thornton Hall? And from there where do they go? There is no housing and nobody in the country wants hundreds moving into their towns. What is the plan for these single men, where are they meant to meet women? The local women won't be swiping right on any of them. So if there is 56 migrants a day coming into the country (and that's the "official" figure) then Thornton Hall will be full in a less than 3 months bearing in mind the backlog of tented men already in the country!

These migrants need to be stopped otherwise as a country we are completely screwed. So the big question to Simon Harris is "what is the longterm plan here"??

( I live in rural Kerry, and today pulled into a layby to text someone. There was a white van with 2 Asian/Pakistan looking men sitting on one side of me, on the other side there was another Indian/Pakistanian couple out rooting around in the boot of their car for something). It just struck me as a white Irish person in rural Ireland how quickly the demographic is changing. These were not tourists. 5 years ago you wouldn't have seen this.

why are you replying to my post about other posts and how they seem ? Not once have I discussed this woman’s appearance or motives

My post was about the right to discuss her opinions and how if she goes public with them then we have a right to disagree or agree as the case my be .

If you have an issue with others discussing her appearance then address them with your concerns

And what are you trying to claim is the causal factor here?

If you're ignoring poverty, unemployment, education etc will you go for the old fashioned genetic inferiority, or one of the more recent cultural inferiority adaptations?

I'm open to hearing other suggestions if you have them?

Fine . Part of what might I ask ? Because you dont agree with any discussion of a public figure doesn’t mean we are all wrong and part of anything

And that is my final word on it . I will not get into an argument