Deposit return scheme (recycling)

Mark my words- the level of refund will decrease overtime after retailers go crying to the government about the extra work and we’ll all then have to give the retailer a “processing” fee

Bump time.

I never (or very rarely) buy individual cans/bottles in the shop but I bought a 1 litre bottle of orange juice last weekend and saw on my receipt when I got home that the tax had been applied. I'm obviously not going to bring one bottle back to one of the machines once it's finished, it's still ok to recycle in the bin at home, I presume? I'm not really getting the whole system unless you buy a s**tload of cans/bottles every week.

Maybe it's as normal as bringing bottles to a bottle bank and separating them

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Many years ago, it would have made sense here too. Many years ago, irelands answer to recycling was everything in a black bag and left on the street for a big truck to eat. Thats not all that long ago.

Since then, ireland went down a different path and was very succesful in it with a hugely progressive approach to recycling which took years to develop.

On the go products are a problem, partly due to a lack of council provided bins, rubbish and recycling, in public places. Also largely due to ignorant muppets who dump, and will continue to do so regardless.

To address this small (in the scheme of volumes recycled way) , they took a sledgehammer to it and managed to destroy public confidence in the recycling agenda, encourage damage to the environment with needless journeys, fuel, time, platic bag use, black bin dumping of rejected items, etc.

They've given two fingers to large minority groups who have publicly asked "what about us" and there are no answers forthcoming.

We have a significant price increase in items that we buy every day, even including the purchase of water, one of the basic human rights. All of this during a cost of living crisis.

Recycling companies must surely be asking why they bother, when the most lucrative part of their business can be just swiped from them on a whim.

They made an utter balls of the launch.

They will take a minimum of a quarter of a BILLION euro, directly from our pockets every year with the blessing of the government.

And they think they are entitled to refuse to release how much they are paying themselves.

Oh, and they are all apparently vested interests involved.

And sorry @elperello for quoting your entire post, i just mean to reference the years ago in germany part. I enjoy reading your balanced posts on this and am glad to see you have a positive experience, as we all should.

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And therefore pay twice, for your green bin and your deposit goes to the quango who, mandated by the government and a monopoly refuses to release figures for returns and their director remunerations. Win Win for them, Lose Lose for you.

I never put a can in my green bin preferring to separate them and put them in the can bin at the civic amenity centre so it's not a big inconvenience to put them in the RVM.

Hardly environmental is it? Much like this scam.

Driving to a civic centre where there was a perfectly good option outside your front door that was carbon neutral to get to.

Machines generally out of order in a few places today.

No reason for a retailer to keep them functioning I suppose.

No excuse for this now that the system has bedded in.

If their card machines went down the problem would be fixed instantly.

This is a fundamental point for people deciding how to proceed with the scheme.

If you don't retrieve the deposit you are losing real money.

Earlier today there was some reaction to the idea of me going to some trouble to reclaim 45 cent.

If I lost 45 cent every week it would add up to €23.40 per year.

I can buy a bottle of whiskey for €23.40.

Personally I'd rather enjoy that bottle than gift the €23.40 to Re-turn.

MUP is a totally different kettle of fish and a way of robbing us with no chance of refund but I'm sure you already know that.