Hamas strike on Israel - Threadbans in op - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

He's probably using the IDF figures, 1/3 killed are terrorists and they have killed 12000 terrorists. Do the math, it's on par with figures Hamas release.

Why are people questioning the figures when figures from Hamas and the figures given by the IDF broadly align, like all previous years of the conflict?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/30/stacy-gilbert-us-state-department-israel-gaza-aid

Stacy Gilbert, who quit post as senior adviser on Tuesday, says report went against consensus of experts

The state department falsified a report earlier this month to absolve Israel of responsibility for blocking humanitarian aid flows into Gaza, overruling the advice of its own experts, according to a former senior US official who resigned this week.

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She said there was general agreement that while other factors impeded the flow of aid into Gaza at a time when famine has begun to take hold of its 2.3 million population – such as lack of security, caused by Hamas, Israeli military operations and the desperation of Palestinians to find food – it was clear that Israel was playing a role in limiting the amount of food and medical supplies crossing the border into Gaza.

“There is consensus among the humanitarian community on that. It is absolutely the opinion of the humanitarian subject matter experts in the state department, and not just in my bureau – people who look at this from the intelligence community and from other bureaus. I would be very hard pressed to think of anyone who has said [Israeli obstruction] is not an issue,” Gilbert said. “That’s why I object to that report saying that Israel is not blocking humanitarian assistance. That is patently false.”

I guess it's understandable that people on here think Israel is innocently defending itself in all of this when both they and the US are covering up their crimes. If you consume any standard media however and see what they're actually doing, it's pretty clear that supporting Israel is incompatible with being a good person.

Gilbert was one of two US officials to resign this week over the Biden administration’s Gaza policy. Alexander Smith, a contractor for the US Agency for International Development (USAid), who resigned on Monday, said he was given a choice between resignation and dismissal after preparing a presentation on maternal and child mortality among Palestinians, which was cancelled at the last minute by USAid leadership last week.

Smith, a senior adviser on gender, maternal health, child health and nutrition, chose to resign on Monday after four years at USAid. In his resignation letter to the head of the agency, Samantha Power, he complained about the inconsistencies in USAid’s approach to different countries and humanitarian crises, and the general treatment of Palestinians.

“I cannot do my job in an environment in which specific people cannot be acknowledged as fully human, or where gender and human rights principles apply to some, but not to others, depending on their race,” he wrote.

No need to feign shock/surprise, I'm just telling it like it is - I believe you and others of your viewpoint value that.

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-has-offered-ceasefire-and-hostage-proposal-to-hamas-says-biden-13146193

Sky News' Middle East correspondent Alistair Bunkall says he has been told the deal has not been made "with the cooperation of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu".

"Sources close to Mr Netanyahu" have told him they do not "wholly recognise or agree with" the proposal outlined by Mr Biden on Friday.

Pretty bizarre all round.

If it was your kid sister or brother getting beaten, arrested and locked up without trial in an Israeli jail for the crime of being cheeky to an IDF soldier, throwing stones in their direction, walking on a street only Jews are allowed to walk on, playing on the street, or just being a Muslim, then perhaps you wouldn't be so flippant yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/av2bVhJA4QY

And now would be a good time to remember that no one on this thread wants a slow painful death for every single Muslim man, woman and child on the planet as soon as possible, or posts inane one-liners.

The post also failed to start with an essay on how history started on October 7th, and a lengthy statement clarifying whether it "condemns Hamas".

No doubt you are equally shocked at that.

Piers Morgan's new opening line - "Do you condemn Hamas @DarkJager21"

Hey its ok I dldn't actually expect you to disagree with a post you agree with.

Throwing in Piers was a cool addition to the whataboutery.