BusConnects Dublin - Likely phasing of new routes

As with all the routes, the details are in the frequency chart linked to above if you look at it - I suspect the E9 will be a bit more necessary than the H9, as it’s effectively the existing school term extra works on the 145 from Shankill!

The H9 might have worked better if it were introduced now but it really wasn’t needed with the Covid loadings. Personally on that corridor I’d have just added extra full length H1 journeys.

As the thread starter, can we please keep this discussion to the phasing? There’s a whole different thread for general discussion of BusConnects here:

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2057746877/busconnects-dublin-big-changes-to-bus-network#latest

No we don’t.

Only one of the corridors has received approval from ABP - the other eleven planning applications are still awaiting a decision from ABP.

Best estimate is sometime next year for construction to start, as tenders will have to be issued once approval comes from ABP.

They'll probably do them 2-3 at a time, so you’re looking at several years to get them all done.

There is no ETA - it’s completely at the whim of ABP who are snowed under with a backlog right now.

Just because the Liffey Valley scheme is approved doesn’t mean it will be the first constructed either. One would assume that the NTA have their own internal plan but this isn’t in the public domain.

The links to the detailed designs are here:

Click on Menu and select “12 Core Bus Corridor Statutory Applications”.

Select whichever corridor you wish to look at. - there is a link on each page to the relevant planning application website.

Again, can I appeal to people to keep this thread to the network phasing.

There are two general BusConnects threads - one here and one in the Infrastructure forum for the general discussion - otherwise this information will get lost.

(I’m guilty of thread drift above myself - but I would like to keep this to the network phasing).

Ok well they were aspirations of over a year in advance, which frankly I’d take with a grain of salt at any time.

A major driver shortage happened post-Covid that resulted in the NTA having to adopt a dose of reality in their expectations and push everything out.

The only planned launch that is publicly confirmed for 2024 is the E Spine phase and there are the beginnings of internal plans in the bus companies being reported for this to happen.

I would expect it to happen this year, unlike the previous false dawns.

Last I saw was a councillor confirming that funds had been allocated for the works this year.

UPDATED PHASING:

I have updated the likely phasing based on what we know about the next phases, and how that impacts later changes:

E Spine:

New routes: E1, E2, 19, L1, L2, L3, L12, L14, L15, L26, L27, X1, X2

Cancelled: 46a, 46e, 63, 63a, 84, 84a, 84x, 145, 155, 184, 185; Northern half of route 4; Northern half of route 11; Northern half of route 13

Amended: Route 4 to operate Heuston Station-Monkstown Avenue; Route 11 to operate Phoenix Park-Sandyford Business District; Route 13 to operate Mountjoy Square-Grange Castle

W6 Route:

New route: W6

Cancelled: W61, W62

O Route:

New Route: Route O introduced

Amended: Route 11 to operate City Centre-Sandyford Business District

F Spine:

New routes: F1, F2, F3, F9, 71, 23, 24, 80, 82 and L89

• F1 to operate to/from IKEA per 140 route from Charlestown
• F2 to operate to 150 terminus at Rossmore rather than Spawell as per original plan;
• 80 to operate from Liffey Valley SC to Palmerston Park until A Spine launches
• 82 to operate to 54a terminus at Kiltipper until D Spine launches
• L89 to operate to/from Broombridge

Cancelled: 9, 26, 40, 40b, 49, 54a, 56a, 83, 83a, 140, 150

D Spine:

New routes: D1, D2, D3, D4, D5, D9, 8, 10, 20, 21, 58, 72, 73, L56, L80, L81, L91, X47, X55, X56, X58, X78

Amended: 82 changed to terminate at Killinarden.

Cancelled: 13, 27, 27a, 27b, 27x, 32x, 42, 43, 51d, 51x, 53, 53a, 68, 68a, 68x, 69, 69x, 77a, 77x, 102, 104, 123, 130, 151; Northern half of route 14, Northern half of route 15, Southern half of route 122

A Spine:

New routes: A1, A2, A3, A4, A9, 22, 81, 85, L44, L82, L83, L85, P18, P43, P44, X76, X77, X79, X83, X84

Amended: Route 80 extended from Palmerston Park to Ballinteer (Kingston)

Cancelled: 1, 14, 15, 15a, 15b, 15d, 16, 33, 33a, 33b, 33d, 33x, 41, 41b, 41c, 41d, 41x, 65, 65b, 142; Northern half of 44

B Spine:

New routes: B1, B2, B3, B4, N8, 34, 35, 36, 37 (new), 48, 98, L11, L21, L22, L61, L62, L63, L64, P11, P12, P63, P64, P65, X61, X62

Cancelled: 4, 7, 7a, 7b, 7d, 37 (old), 38, 38a, 38b, 38d, 39, 39a, 39x, 40d, 40e, 45a, 45b, 59, 70, 111, 120, 122, 220, 220a, 236, 236a, 238, 270

Final Phase:

New routes: 86, 87, 88, L13, L33, L35, P13, P16

Cancelled: 11, 44, 44b, 47, 114, 116, 118, 161

The proposed new network map is here

https://busconnects.ie/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/A3-Big-Picture-Map-13.6.24.pdf

Proposed frequencies are here:

https://busconnects.ie/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/a3-frequency-tables-061020-fa.pdf