Why wont die hard GAA fans admit football these days is muck?

Well then don't watch them.

But of course, if you did that, you couldn't come on here boring everyone.

Ah stop most players now are far more skillful than in the past.

Not much skill to a halfback booting it as far up the field as possible in the hope someone on his own team wins the contested ball. That same halfback wouldn't even think going up the filed and going for a score.

A shot clock and/or not going back over the 65/45/20 would fix a multitude.

I would suggest less of the personal abuse please might be a good idea.

There seems to be a kind of attitude amongst a certain coterie around this thread that anyone

who voices an opinion negatively on Gaelic Football is boring people and that the answer is “Don’t watch them then”.

For me that is a foolish statement and totally untrue, why would the Árd Stùrithoir then commission a very high powered committee to examine the rules of Gaelic Football with a view to making it more attractive to watch?

Every sport that I am aware of regularly examines itself at intervals to review the product.

The GAA I’m glad to say are no different.

Ya but the size of the court/5-a-side/Multiple referees allows for that

Just a shot clock etc wouldn’t work in Gaelic Football

There was no personal abuse.

You're posts are ridiculously repetitive and boring.

I stated something that is logical about watching something you don't like and you didn't appreciate that, responding about people not liking opposing views - completely oblivious to the fact that that was exactly what you were doing.

I find soccer very boring. Therefore I don't watch it!!

And I definitely don't go on discussion boards telling people who do like it how awful their game is.

Repeatedly.

Without making any suggestions how I'd improve it.

The very definition of insanity.

The real issue of course is to stick your head in the sand and say ‘ Everything is great’ metaphorically speaking.

To accept what could be a good product being dragged down into a swamp of boredom.

Luckily Jarlath doesn’t see it that way and has the foresight to accept that changes need to be made, and made in

time before it’s too late .

Luckily he doesn’t ignore the issues and look the other way.

From the RTE report on the setting up of Jim Gavin's committee. Jarlath thinks that they might not change very much. Ex players like Michael Murphy would not try to foist nonsense stuff on to the present players. They have the power to reject any such carry on, and have used it before. And the referees and other officials would walk away in even bigger numbers if they are expected to carry clipboards noting who is inside or outside of zones of the pitch.

"Burns also backed the "exemplary" Gavin and described the committee as a whole as "among the greatest thinking minds on the game, who have achieved everything". But as for the potential for them to recommend wide-reaching changes to the way football is played, Burns said it was also possible to leave the game largely intact.

"The committee might decide to make no change at all because even the defensive game at times, with the goalkeeper going forward, can be very enjoyable to watch because you're waiting for a break and when it breaks the goalkeeper's up and you can see everybody scampering back," he said. "That can be enjoyable. We're after witnessing maybe two or three of the best games we've seen in a long time, particularly the Division 1 league final."

It's the players opinions that matter. It was trialled back in 2019, but failed to get them on board.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2019/0119/1024255-handpass-rule-axed-for-league-by-single-vote/

"The rule limited the number of consecutive handpasses to three proved contentious with players, supporters and managers, with a survey of GPA members revealing 90% opposition to the measure among players."

Most football fans do admit it and they do so by not attending anymore. Attendances speak for themselves.

The major issue is the lack of competitiveness. If the spectacle isn't fantastic but it's competitive you'll still keep people's interest but right now it's not entertaining or competitive.

As a spectacle it all went down hill after 2014. Remember in 2013 all the sly digs from Jim Gavin in interviews about how they believe the game should be played in a certain way. Donegal proceeded to hammer them and Dublin returned to the park the bus style of 2011 and 2010 post Meath hammering.

That was the end of football played traditional. The Ulster style proved superior and won.

The notebook and clipboard lads will disagree there.

Lookit, saw a few of them in the background up in Derry.. they want to hold on to their status and perks.

Heard on RTE Sport today that one game yesterday had 75 in attendance for Tailteann game, which game was that does anyone know?

Yeah likewise I'm delighted to hear. Been boycotting games myself for year's glad to see many follow.

Is the football side of the GAA at an all time low?

Go to both hurling semis!

The Leinster hurling final is good too some year's. I seen Galway beat Wexford and Wexford beat Kilkenny recently. Also seen Dublin beat Galway back in 2013.

Wexford came very close to making it a Dublin V Wexford LHF this year which would have been unreal and I'd have attended.

listen , after watching derry get destroyed by donegal by one stupid tactic and one stupid tactic alone and go and do the exact same thing all over again just goes to show what a shower of idiots are watching gaelic football if they think this is acceptable , think james mccartans point against derry in 1994 against the rubbish tactics today ,

football is fucked if people see today as a guideline

The old format lasted another 7 years after 1994. Which was the year the reigning AI champions got just one game, and then they were gone. Eventually a system was devised to give teams more games. And a version of that is what we have now. But that is still not enough to keep some people happy. They cannot get their heads around some teams losing three games and still being in. More Championship games with fewer spectators at some, but overall probably just as many watching. Unless someone has numbers to disprove that. The League in which the players obviously deploy the same tactics, is very popular.

On the playing field coaches and players have devised new ways of playing the game. After being hidebound for 100 years by Catch and Kick. Already 20 years ago it was being derided as Puke Football. But it has evolved to a real contest of possession attack based football versus defence, requiring super fitness. Anyone can catch a ball and hoof it up the field, but to keep possession and engineer scores against committed defences takes more skill than that.

Lookit PeeJay, these lads are only interested in trying to wind people up, so don’t bite the bait.

Todays game is more like field handball than what can be termed as ‘football’ in most cases.

Spectators are slowly getting tired of the fare on offer and are dwindling in interest as the game they

are watching evolves.

Saw Starry Bhoy in the dugout in Derry- a former basketball player.

‘Nuff said😯

At the minute there is a balance for teams between attack and defense. Even the teams trying to play tight will have some plan for transitioning the ball up the field should the chance present itself.

Implement a shot clock and that will disappear, it will be 15man blanket defence shutting down the other side with no regard for attacking, because why bother when you will be handed the ball in 60 seconds time.

And after 60 seconds when they have to kick the ball away, the other side will immediately go into turtle mode themselves.

All a shot clock does is guarantee that at every point of the game, one of the two teams is going full blanket defence. Back and forth blanket defence for the entire game.