Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

I guess the reality is that the core won't change, and you'll have some small portion that will vote for him for the lolz of a convicted president, but you would have to imagine that this will be a big hit for him for independents, floating voters, etc. You might see a portion of people who were leaning Trump and feel they can't vote Biden shift over to Kennedy now, which ultimately could help Biden

I tend to agree that he won’t gain new support as a result of this conviction - wonder though what would happen if Trump were jailed? I think it’s very unlikely but if it did happen, I think that’s when he’d receive new support - not because he’s Trump- more because he’s an ex president - I don’t think Americans in general like to see their presidents jailed regardless of rally cries - convictions or fall from grace followed by presidential pardons like Nixon they’ll live with but unless this is a smoking gun plain murder I don’t think they have the appetite for jailing their presidents

Is it more accurate to say that all elections involving trump did fall within the expected margin of error for the polls. The electoral college can turn tiny margins into an outsized overall win though.

Would the fact that Trump basically abandoned and turned his back on New York as a voter base, moving to Florida lock, stock and barrel have any effect on NYC and State residents opinion of him?

When he did move to Mar-A-Lago, the news was about how many of the other Mar-A-Lago residents were opposed to him setting up his residence there as his new home, that they didn't want him there in that guise. Now they have a convicted felon as a neighbour.

interesting that the GOP yesterday and today is all about distracting from the 12 ordinary Joes finding that Trump did bang Stormy, lied about it and paid her off to keep her quiet. Up to now that story was in doubt.

I’d imagine this is more damaging to his Christian conservative base than some election rules and so the GOP want the conversation about something else.

interesting that the GOP yesterday and today is all about distracting from the 12 ordinary Joes finding that Trump did bang Stormy, lied about it and paid her off to keep her quiet. Up to now that story was in doubt.

That isn't what he was convicted of. He was convicted of hiding the payments to Stormy as payments for legal services.

not completely true, he was convicted of hiding these payments to influence the election of the president.

For conviction, the prosecution needed to establish that there was a reason for the payments, and that the payments took place.

There would have been no conviction if no payments. His mistake is either hiding the payments or doing the dirty deed - perhaps he should have been honest about banging her? That’s not the path he chose.
Just like the GOP you are twisting and wiggling here to change the conversation. He should have kept it in his pants if he wanted to be president.

There would have been no conviction if he hadn't hidden the payments as legal fees. There was nothing illegal in sleeping with stormy Daniels and nothing illegal in paying her to keep quiet.