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SMACKDOWN LIVE SUPERTHREAD

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I'm still a bit on the fence about Tiffy but I agree she is well over and a good winner of QOTR and/or MITB

    I feel sorry for Bayley, the champ, barely featured and no feud, or worthy opponent, even a Chelsea feud would be something

    We know Cody will retain now only one title on the line

    I hope Knight beats Paul at SS for the title

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Overall a decent episode.

    Tama being a gremlin was pretty funny. Belair/Stratton was really good. LA/Tama was decent but LA's promo on Carmelo and the tease with Logan was even better. Randy/Carmello was great too, especially the RKO. They're clearly very high on Melo.

    The contract signing was surprisingly excellent, hot crowd really helped. The lawyer gimmick could actually work and Cody really sold Logan getting under his skin.

    Looks like the new Wyatt family could be Smackdown bound but not sure. They acknowledge the codes on Raw and Smackdown but spent far longer on it on Smackdown.

    Less good things. The Jade/Jax finish was okay on paper but dumb in execution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    The lawyer was hilarious...the acting skills were something else



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭Patrick Mahomes


    Jade was never the greatest but she seems to have really regressed since debuting in WWE. Did Tiffany lose that match because of her Instagram post as it looked like she was nailed in to be queen of the ring last week.

    Regards,

    P.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Ah, I dunno. The smackdown side of the women's tournament was stacked with Bianca, Jade, Nia. Her first round match wasn't even televised so I doubt it's anything to do with that. Tiffy in the Bank has a better ring to it anyways😂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Knight put some manners on Melo in that promo.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Her match last week was one of her best to date imo. I don't think she's regressed, whether she's improved is probably the bigger more reasonable debate. Don't think Tiffany ever stood a chance as dumb as that post was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,509 ✭✭✭sioda


    Belair showing some strength with lifts and a KOD on Jax



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,208 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Logan Paul: "and you have my word I will not use them [brass knuckes]"

    .... in other words some one else will lol.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,208 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Watching these women matches makes me sing "go go power rangers"

    (The bodysuits)



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Looks like Piper Niven is getting built up for a match in Scotland, which is nice to see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,154 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Paul Heyman doing a good job building up the evil Bloodline, and the way Solo keeps referring to 'The Tribal Chief' definitely makes me think he's referring to The Rock. Reckon once Rock's done shooting we'll get a build up of Solo supposedly ushering in the arrival of his Tribal Chief, setting the expectation of a Roman return, only for Rock's music to hit. Then perhaps some Rock/Cody action for a while, before Roman comes back and gets Jey and Jimmy back together for the battle for the soul of the Bloodline for next years WM.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Paul's expressions are just superb, for me he carries this storyline as I cannot get used to Solo talking as "boss"



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Teasing AJ retiring :(

    Or teasing him for MITB :)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,065 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Saw that coming



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    Knight carried that segment on his own as Kayla was brutal as well.

    Fair enough if interviewers miss picking up on cues to interact, but she just looked completely disinterested from start to finish. Such a bizarre segment.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    I think everyone did they may aswell slapped a salmon coloured jacket on him.

    WWE has lost all momentum since mania and seem completely directionless since the draft. Even the bloodline in cooling. It’s so apparent how heavily reliant they became on the rock and Roman to carry the product, it’s been massively exposed with all the recent injuries and departures.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Pretty sure Kayla doesn't watch the product. There was some awkwardness with Punk at the HOF too that made me think that. As for Carmello, it was pretty awkward. Hopefully just a once off flub, Knight could have gone much further but did a good save. Looks like LA is definitely being lined up for Logan, hopefully at Summerslam.

    An Apollo Crews sighting in 2024, looks like there might be more of him too. Man desperately needs a decent character though. Piper getting a shot is good too.

    The AJ segment was pretty clear where it was going, especially when Cody came down. That being said, it was still fun, thought AJ played it well. At least he didn't go with a salmon suit jacket.

    Although a small part of me thought with this TNA crossover that he might show up and challenge for their title instead.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Don’t forget Summerslam is in Logan’s hometown so I don’t see him losing there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,065 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    What tag team could Cody get to help him? Maybe The OC vs Cody and partners at CATC



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,363 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Once again Bayley the champ not being treated well. Getting attacked and then just lying there while Piper/Chelsea confront Nia. While I'm sure she'll beat Piper, with the way she's been treated so far, I'd say Nia will beat her at Summerslam.

    When was the last time someone retired in the ring that wasn't due to injury?

    As for Apollo, he's been a regular on Main Event.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    Styles dumped the OC before that feud...only credible tag team on smackdown that are face and not in a group are DIY



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,065 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    They were in the ring with him last night and blocked the security from coming down



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    My bad I haven't watched the segment yet..not sure so...axiom and Fraser aren't much backup to Cody 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Kayla had a face liked a slapped arse on her during that segment and made things awkward. What's her deal?

    Melo is a lost lamb on the main roster so far.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    She's responding to people on Twitter defensively over it and even tweeted about the travel over the last month causing exhaustion, which would be a fair enough excuse in most cases, but she's only back from a long sabbatical. There's no excuse for the complete disinterest she showed in that segment really.

    You have to really praise Knight for how he handled her **** and another flub from Carmelo. I



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    I'd be inclined to believe Kayla given the same woman's previous chemistry with a certain Paul Heyman during interviews. She messed up sure, as usual though with wrestling and internet fans it gets blown wildly out of proportion 🤣

    The whole AJ thing is ridiculous anyways, a blind man would have seen that ending coming after the segments with Aldis. Smackdown world title picture just has everyone spinning their wheels till SummerSlam, there's absolutely no jeopardy for Cody in matches with AJ or Logan Paul (particularly where they remove the latter's title from being on the line).

    Women's division is at least fresh even if the champ is being made to look like a fool weekly, it's not the first Bayley reign (as a face) that's flopped mind you. A win for Niven in Scotland would be great, don't see it happening though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,363 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Since Bayley's win at Mania seems more to give her her Mania moment than any planned storyline, maybe she could lose to Piper.

    Considering the 4 Scottish wrestlers in title matches at CatC, they'll have to have one win, at least. Unless they have Jade and Bianca lose to Alba and Isla.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    For me Heyman is carrying this Bloodline story

    I have no issue with Styles feuding with Cody again for the title



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭ThePott


    I remembered that but even still I think they'll boo him🤣, nobody can stand the guy lol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    God, the Bloodline misses Roman so much. Sikoa's spot is standing in the background looking menacing, he just isn't the main guy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Jade taking on Indi tonight



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    Yeah it's really hit a lull...needs some life as Solo is not that guy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,363 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    I find it pointless how B-Fab comes out with the Street Profits when they do a run in. With the shoes she wears, she's usually only making it to the ring by the time the fight is over and they cut to commercial. And not like she does anything. At least it made some sense when she had to fight Scarlett.

    I really think they just swapped out Isla Dawn for another person since she looks so different, especially with her face matching her hair. It's like she's gone from being a Scottish Witch to an imitation of Tiffany Stratton.

    Wonder if the Jade match was changed to a tag match to help Jade or just to build the title match.

    That loading dock security looked a bit poor with the metal detector at the side of a huge space.

    Had to laugh at Nick saying about him being down a match considering he didn't even have a main event before the show started.

    Knight just saying that Logan was playing Tetris caught Nick off guard. Could barely stop himself.

    Careful, Nia, floor slippery when wet. I am liking they're giving Mia more to do these days.

    Thought they were going to just have Chelsea do all the talking so was good to hear Piper talk.

    So when can we expect the new group to debut? All at once or the occasional interference instead of the current glitches, blank screen video?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I got Baby Reindeer vibes from Piper ☺😆



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,187 ✭✭✭Ridley




  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 15,254 Mod ✭✭✭✭Furious-Red


    I think the reason I can't get behind solo is because they didn't do much to elevate his character that much before WrestleMania so when it came to him taking over the bloodline I felt meh about it and still do. Once again Heyman is carrying it.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc


    Exactly this. They did nothing to elevate Solo. They should have had him go completely unhinged looking to avenge Roman’s defeat. Become an unstoppable monster again after mania similar to how they’re building Bron.

    Have Heyman show concerns that he can’t keep Solo under control and then introduce new Bloodline members.

    Another issue is we know where we’re going with this storyline but it’s taking far too long to get there with no Roman or Rock involved so they have no immediate direction for it and it’s obvious it’s just spinning the wheels. Similar to Cody’s title run.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,065 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Crowd fairly dead apparently



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,871 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    It would make sense to segue into Romans return around SummerSlam time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,363 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    So this new group due to debut on Raw going by the countdown that showed up on Smackdown?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,363 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Do we know are the Wyatt Six Raw only or will they show on both shows? I seem to remember the glitches were acknowledged more on Smackdown.



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 25,014 Mod ✭✭✭✭Loughc




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,363 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Phew. That's reassuring. Good to know security will keep them away.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Smackdown was a banger.

    I know some people probably hoped Drew would go away for a while but tbh I always expected he'd wreck Punk in Chicago the same way Punk wrecked him in his home town. It just made more sense. Violent looking attack too, was an awesome segment. Definitely seems like Punk might not be cleared (that fall on the ramp looked rough in that case) considering they did his attack off screen or maybe they want to just keep this going till Summerslam. Either way this feud is amazing.

    I really liked all the winners of the MITB matches, bit of a shock but think they're giving people a chance to shine and get elevated by being in the match, exactly what MITB should do.

    Jacob Fatu! Holy christ did they make him look a monster. He took out three main eventers with ease and violently. They played this so well. I think Solo is settling into his role a bit better, Fatu can basically be what Solo was meant to be. Guessing this is it for the New Bloodline. Maybe Hikuleo will join Roman's side when he returns. My only concern with this storyline is that, what do you do with all these guys after the Bloodline story ends but that could be a long time away yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    I still think it makes more sense to have hikuleo join his half brother's in bloodline 2.0 especially considering they've trademarked "talla Tonga" ...just make them an unstoppable force for months

    Roman and the Uso's could recruit Juicy Finau and Lance Anoa’i or even Zilla (might be too green yet)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,363 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Think Nick should've explained to his extra security that they should also be on the lookout for other unauthorised people and not just the Wyatts, considering Punk got attacked by Drew and Jacob Fatu got in.

    So how many people actually know Jacob Fatu? I've only heard his name and maybe saw a bit of him in action somewhere. Same with Tama Tonga. All those other people you're mentioning, I have no idea. I think bringing too many in will be a bad idea unless there are long term plans. Like I expect at some point the Tongas will go for the titles. I did like how Heyman couldn't give a crap when Solo and co were getting beat down, while you would see him reacting if it was Roman there.

    I'm liking how the MitB matches are shaping up.

    Going by Raw and Smackdown, they're back to being PG-13 with the blood being used. As HHH has said, he tries to only use it when it can be impactful.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Main parts aside re: Punk, Bloodline etc the MITB winners were really refreshing to see. Actually a little surprised at the level of pop Green got in particular when she won but her character work the past year has been exceptional in fairness to her. Rooting for her or Tiffany to win MITB. The fake out cash ins with Green could be quality for a few months at least!

    Kross tweeted about Fatus arrival too, he was booked ridiculously strong for a debut in fairness

    https://x.com/realKILLERkross/status/1804333312812470705?t=ycWJF6ARzv3NAr1ollLxHg&s=19



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