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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - threadbans and mod warnings in OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,638 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson




  • Registered Users Posts: 19,661 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    None of this says he didn't do it..... and it is full of whataboutery.

    So yes, it's very like your posts.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    I hope he has solid evidence for all of the above. That's an awful lot of potential defamation cases against him. Maybe he just likes giving away money.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,437 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail




  • Registered Users Posts: 28,466 ✭✭✭✭looksee




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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,992 ✭✭✭Christy42


    I have noticed there are few if any more denials from the Republican side. They have moved onto campaign financing laws should be minor enough to ignore.



  • Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭gneel


    I never noticed how much Trump has declined in terms of his speaking ability



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Yep it's what I was referring to early, he has declined a lot.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,811 ✭✭✭✭briany


    I can imagine it being a requirement to work in a Trump cabinet that you support the removal of the two-term limit and, while we're at it, that they take an oath not to the USA but to Trump himself.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,661 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Are there any independent verifications of this claim, or is it just a negligent regurgitation of lie?



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    Delete



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭ToweringPerformance


    If it's being reported by major news outlets it will have fact checked i'd say.



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    How do you know what you know? What legal evidence do you have that would be admissible as evidence in Trump’s forthcoming appeal of his criminal guilty verdict with 34 counts? Or is this just your unsubstantiated personal opinion that would not be admissible in court, and may be classified as hearsay and of no value in Trump’s appeal?



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,661 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,302 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Let me save you some time. Don't engage. Pretend like they're not there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,302 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Yep. And probably a proviso that they'll support Don Jr as the successor with no need for an election.



  • Registered Users Posts: 30,085 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Yet again zero attempt to explain what was unfair about the trial. Trump was found guilty by a jury in court, where he could mount a defence, if the charges were nonsense. But he was guilty by a jury, thereby disproving your entire line of argument.

    Zero attempt to actually defend Trump of the charges because you know you can't.

    So again, there's no real arguments or defences here. Just whataboutery and arguing over legal technicalities. All of which his legal team were free to challenge in court and make the case to the jury. Dancing around Trump's actual conduct, refusing to acknowledge it and how he should be held to account for it.

    It's up there with Trump isn't a rapist so he's ok, while ignoring what the judge adjudicated, while ignoring that he was found liable for sexual assault by the jury, while ignoring what he was found liable for would be rape in Ireland and most jurisdictions in the US.

    Desperation level excuses.

    Trump was guilty of the acts he was charged with. Yes? Simple yes or no answer. A self declared 'centrist' who doesn't want Trump to be elected should have no issue answering such a question. If you don't answer, we can draw our own conclusions about your posts.

    Do you think a political candidate should suffer no consequences for breaching finance laws to pay hush money to someone he had an affair with?

    Always some excuse must be found by you to defend Trump. We never see any unprompted posts criticising Trump for his conduct. We never see any explanation of what consequences Trump should face for this conduct, despite you claiming you don't want him to be President.

    We never seen the same excuses rolled out for Democrats. You aren't fooling anyone with this charade.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,811 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Yes, although I have a hunch that Donald regards his youngest son, Barron, as his true successor, since he has the towering physical stature, the haughty sneer and he's even copped a similar hairstyle, whereas his other sons are greasy-haired sycophants with no chins and pronounced overbites. Sure, he's only 18, but if Trump could get the term limit removed, would it be so far fetched to think he might ask for the age barrier to be reconsidered, also?



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    Trump’s lead defense of hush money Todd Blanche doesn’t appear to be an experienced appellate attorney (see wiki), which Trump needs if he is going to mount an appeal that may have legal merit. With all the millions of donor’s money that Trump has used and continues to get to defend himself across multiple civil and criminal cases in recent years, you would think he would hire the brightest and best appellate attorneys to lead and develop his appeal to a higher NY appellate court up to the US Supreme Court?

    I’m not qualified to make legal opinions, but upon anecdotal reflection on the 3 recent major civil cases Trump has lost for a half billion USD, and now this 34 count criminal conviction, it makes me wonder if Trump was hiring the brightest and the best attorneys to defend him? It does not appear that Trump had a “Dream Team” like OJ did for any of these 4 Trump cases.

    Perhaps the brightest and the best legal firms have turned Trump down for various reasons? Do these top firms know things about Trump that may incline them to refuse him, regardless of the millions of donors money he has?



  • Registered Users Posts: 30,085 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Trump doesn't pay his bills, and he doesn't take direction from his lawyers when they are giving good advice, as we have seen, he just won't keep his mouth shut. Continually engaging in contempt of court.

    The best and brightest law firms know not to touch him with a barge pole.

    Trump is notorious for leaving a trail of unpaid bills wherever he goes. Hundreds of people have accused him of failing to pay them for services, ranging from a glass company in New Jersey to workers at his resorts, real estate brokers, and even law firms who represented him in suits for unpaid bills.

    https://newrepublic.com/post/173722/donald-trump-long-long-history-not-picking-check

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭combat14


    looks like the crooked democrat judge is going to jail president trump wont stop him from being relected may even help his cause



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Mike Johnson wants the Supreme Court to overturn the verdict

    My statement on President Trump trial verdict:

    Today is a shameful day in American history. Democrats cheered as they convicted the leader of the opposing party on ridiculous charges, predicated on the testimony of a disbarred, convicted felon. This was a purely political exercise, not a legal one.

    The weaponization of our justice system has been a hallmark of the Biden Administration, and the decision today is further evidence that Democrats will stop at nothing to silence dissent and crush their political opponents.  

    The American people see this as lawfare, and they know it is wrong—and dangerous. President Trump will rightfully appeal this absurd verdict—and he WILL WIN!



  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ Brynlee Uptight Grindstone


    We have established that the judge is corrupt, highly unethical and biased in favour of the democrats. He has a history trying to take Trump out. I wonder who got this judge assigned to the case?! And a judge can have a huge influence over the jurors in what evidence they accept or ignore, and what laws should apply. This was a witch-hunt and the outcome was known from the start. They will lock up Trump and give him some food that will induce sudden death syndrome or a heart attack, just like what happened to Navalny in a Russian prison system. No doubt Putin wanted to get rid of him before election day.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,661 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users Posts: 18,480 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Mad that Trumps own wife won't even support him and you still get people making themselves look stupid online trying to defend a rapist.

    No sign of Ivanka either. I guess even her thick skin shudders at the thought that her father forced himself on a porn star because she looked like Ivanka.

    Imagine being at family events and knowing your father is perving over you. I almost feel sorry for her.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Did all the MAGA cultists finish lunch the same time or something?

    We’re going to get a lot of «Crooked Democrat» this, and «Crooked Democrat» that for the forseeable aren’t we?

    It’s a rather tiresom bit of projection from a group of people who would have no trouble at all with filling the justice system with Trump loyalists who would likely criminalise other political parties in a heartbeat. I can easily imagine a whole host of courts headed with the MAGA equivilent of Roland Freisler, handing down fury-driven sentences to those who dare disagree at all with The Party, or it’s Dear Leader.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,771 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Got a source for that or is this just like Clinton going to jail?

    No, you've pushed a conspiracy theory that the judge is corrupt and unethical. Ironically enough Trump has been found in a court of law to be corrupt and unethical.

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    If Blanche was the brightest and the best lead defense for Trump, I wonder why he only called 2 witnesses, with the first only taking a few minutes to enter a spreadsheet into evidence, while the last one was asked to testify in Trump’s defense? In comparison, the prosecution called 20 witnesses, and introduced a mountain of physical evidence, all linked together.

    Furthermore, the prosecution framed and told an understandable story that exemplified the theory of Trump’s criminal conduct, whereas the defense focused mostly on attempting to poke holes in the prosecution’s case, and failed to present a believable alternative story to support Trump’s proclaimed innocence to the jury.

    A Trump defense witness testimony of only Robert Costello, and not many others intended to benefit Trump, was a curious event compared to the several prosecutor’s witnesses. Makes me wonder if all the MAGA accusations of rigged trial had little or no merit compared to the possibility that Trump lost and was convicted party because his defense was poor, and the evidence against Trump was substantial and well documented and presented?



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,785 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Thats not what a jury of peers means.

    It means a jury chosen from a cross section of the community.

    The jury chosen was certainly not a cross section of society.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,811 ✭✭✭✭briany


    In Trumpland, all verdicts against him are corrupt by definition. They'd say the same about a verdict against him in any of the other cases pending.



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