Deposit return scheme (recycling)

Alot of people that would usually be siting down looking for money ,are now walking around carrying big black bags that rattle alot ,also noticed a lot of corpo bins have suddenly been bent open to gain access. O

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It is ninety percent of the containers.…do you see the link between public engagement and percentage of items returned? Do you think they will ever get close to 90 percent returns? More importantly how much of the percentage returned will be recycled?

How exactly should there be little need for extra car journeys? If you look simply at this charitable collections scheme you'll see there are going to be extra car journeys there that werent there before, or look at the amount of people who are doing their bit for the environment by shopping online who now need to hope in a car to try return items.

It's a deposit in all but name. It tax as it applies to all items no matter where purchased and the scheme is clearly designed to make it difficult for people to claim it back.

No so fast there E.

They'd be processed as manual returns IE. counted.

That ain't speculation.

You backed down once questioned further, because your original statement was made up.

He might find some Green Party politicians as he rummages through the rubbish bins following the next general election.

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Pot kettle black.

The bit you quoted was in reply to your suggestion that charity volunteers would have to look for an RVM.

You said

What will the charity do with all the cans when they can't find a working machine either?

I'll leave it to others to judge who is making stuff up.

It's not a tax. Taxes go to into the exchequer. Your "deposit", on the other hand, is going directly into the pockets of a private company. It won't benefit the country like a tax. It only swells the coffers of Re-turn and their vested interests.

Do you think that they will reach ninety percent return rate based on what you have seen so far?

Many people try do their bit for the environment by shopping from home, they tend not to go to the shop on a weekly basis. This scheme will add to their car journeys, indeed the overall mileage needed now to 'recycle' will have increased dramatically in the end to end cycle.

Again, we've been told elsewhere this scheme has worked elsewhere for decades, yet they are having teething problems and problems that they didn't foresee. Doesn't add up.

Another poster has better described what the DRS fee is. Maybe not a tax, but worse.

People have no choice if they want to get their money back so their will be some level of support all the time.

You'd never have any idea of the amount of support for the legacy scheme but I'd wager it was more than this one currently anyway.

They've still not addressed the many issues that apparently blindsided them since day one and failing to address those has turned many people against this.

When exactly, I wonder are they suppose to start producing meaningful figures?

Of course they do.

I wonder what will happen in June next year when they release the figures and see they are well off where they should be. Serious questions need to be asked. They are being asked now but the organisation are completely ignoring people.

They have no issues releasing the monthly return figures but problems releasing the sales figures. Why so I wonder?

Who are the auditors for this company? It would be important to verify the figures.

If you find the answers post them here.

Good for you then.

I already said I don't know if they will reach 90%.

You'll have to settle for that because there's not enough information available to make a full assessment of their chances.

TBH I doubt if anyone in Re-turn could give you a guarantee at this point.

If people want to make special journeys to recycle I suppose they will.

But most, I think, will do the obvious and fit it in with some other task.

I wish there were less teething problems but I don't know whose fault each problem was.

I was surprised that Lidl who had experience in other countries and actually ran pilot systems here had so much trouble.

At least we have moved on from calling DRS a tax

That's a value judgement that I disagree with.

It's clearly a refundable deposit.

The current problems with the system don't change that.

Each consumer who pays a deposit has a container that can be returned for a refund.

That's the legal situation, you are entitled to a refund.

The retailers and Re-turn need to get their act together and make sure you get it.