Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Excuse me? Native history? Not that it's any of your business but I'm Irish.

Also do you have a link for that Youtube video? I've just searched for those users there and I'm not getting any results.

You'll need to translate unless you can read Arabic, my browser has an option to translate the page.

100% agree, you will have people abusing any system in the world but if those comments are true then they would be first to be checked. If they have nothing to hide then why ask the same question (again, if those comments are real)

I read some of those comments and so far Italian residency , Austrian residency & Bosnia and Herzegovina all in the "newest" comments want to come to Ireland 😂

pretty damming stuff.

Almost as bad as the ROG tweets.

again this is where a detention centre is a must. They arrive here, then carted off till such time that their credentials are confirmed. None of this roaming around the place with not a care in the world. As another poster said, we don't take our security seriously enough in this country.

No we do not, not really - a few token deportations. McEntee already admitted this.

Let the link you just posted sink in - in 2023 we only enforced 80 deportation orders….

What has the housing crises got to do with the context of the thread? No one has suggested immigration was the cause of the housing crisis but it has not helped the situation. Also lets be honest, its a tiny bit more than a few. Finally, if you think we have had right wing governance for the last 10 years you need to open your eyes.

I think what it shows is one common question:

"How can I circumvent the rules of this country I want to go to?"

What it exposes is the fundamental dishonesty of those asking the question (and no, I'm not convinced it's the Reds Under the Bed spreading disinformation again!) - after all, we've seen/heard/read interviews with some of these people where they freely admit arriving from the UK or from/via another EU state and/or safe country.

That alone should disqualify and invalidate their application in my view. Such dishonesty and disrespect for our laws doesn't bode well for their attitude towards anything else they might not like here.

However, while a lot of the blame certainly lies with the Government and TDs like McEntee, the rest of it must lie with these individuals themselves. They are very aware of what they're doing and their deliberate premeditated actions cannot be ignored or excused either.

That video is from two and a half years ago and most of the comments are over a year old.

But in any event, there are hundreds of such videos on YouTube advising people on how they might be able to claim asylum in dozens of different countries - I'm not sure why this would be a surprise. YouTube is as good a platform as any in sharing this type of information.

Did Peter Casey go to the US system looking for handouts and housing? From the link you posted it reads like he had a job but Visa was not changed by the time he arrived.

"The post itself was in response to a now-deleted tweet, where Mr Casey admits to working in the US ahead of receiving his L1 visa — which allows companies to transfer managers between foreign offices to their US offices."

I do not believe that majority of those arriving here want to work and that's all this thread is about. Most people understand that people do come here for a better life and when that happens and they contribute then great but go looking around Dublin City Centre an those who come here for thee free ride is what annoys people.

Fingerprints are checked against two databases, neither is a criminal database. The 2 they are using is EuroDac for international protection applicants or people who have crossed a border illegally or SIS which contains information about false documents or identification which has been captured by an EU member state or the Schengen associated countries,  It does not record a person’s criminal history or records.

So really who is coming into the country with no papers is nearly anybody's guess

I never suggested they are checked against criminal databases. I said a previous asylum claim would show.

Having a criminal record is not a bar to claiming asylum.

I believe I've been clear in the post you quoted and the others from me in this thread.

Immigration can certainly be a very good and welcome opportunity and benefit to a country. It can offer additional manpower for jobs, skills, ideas and the potential to learn from each other.

But it must always be controlled and those controls must reflect the views and mandate of the native population and citizens. Immigration should always benefit the hosts, not just the new arrivals and it should never threaten the culture, communities or needs of the hosts. It's our country after all and as native Irish and citizens we have a fundamental right for our needs, concerns, goals, and wishes to be represented above all else. That's a fundamental element of the democratic system after all as well as the social contract between citizen and State.

It must be as equally effective at identifying those who have legitimate rights or needs, and those who are chancing their arm with consequences such as refusal, deportation and blacklisting to rapidly follow.

Ultimately it must be sustainable - limiting numbers to manageable levels, and ensuring that we don't continue to do things such as parachute hundreds of random men into small communities leave the locals to deal with the consequences.

Again, what's wrong with that?

I do compelte agree about the importance of having a democratic mandate. After Friday we will all know where the electorate stand on immigration issues.