2024 F1 General Discussion Thread

Bad team-mate but decent driver.

Alpine seems like a bit of a sinking ship to be honest. You can make cases for most teams being on the up (with the exception of HAAS) but with Alpine there never seems to be any kind of good news coming from their camp

Ted is one of the better ones they have at Sky. Also, i'd imagine the bosses at Renault Automobile are thinking this sh!tshow is potentially bad for business. If they become a laughing stock it potentially impacts retail sales, and also the money they have pumped in to the F1 eam already

F1 2024 game driver ratings released. Discuss. I really hope they don't do that video they've done in the past where drivers guess their and their team mate's rating. Poor Sargent...

That video was already up on YouTube by the time you posted! I don’t think there’s anything too crazy in those rankings as they’re using stats and factoring more than just immediate form as far as I’m aware. If it was 2024 form, you would need a good reshuffle for certain drivers.

Pleasantly surprised that the stats have Alonso number two. Definitely a less sexy option than some of the younger alternatives but still a great driver when the cars going well. It’s a shame that Red Bull were so dominant in early 2023 when the Aston Martin was competitive and Alonso looked great - could have had race wins only for it.

Personally, I rate Sainz a little bit below LeClerc and Norris. It’s easier for me to say now after each has picked up a recent race win but they are both brillant at qualifying and their ceiling has seemed higher than Sainz’s. In comparison to Sainz, I feel like LeClerc is judged more harshly as the expectations are so high and have been from the bar he set early on. Not taking away from Sainz who has had very good form over the last year or so. Ferrari are losing a very good driver.

One for @Jordan 199

The yellow was great. And as Eddie Jordan pointed out on his podcast at some point, it was always easy to pick them out of the crowd.

LOl

I wish Laurence Stroll would send Lance somewhere else so Carlos could get that seat. That would be a great lineup at Aston Martin with Fernando and Carlos.

At the moment Carlos's options are not great short term either Sauber/Audi or Williams but maybe long term they might have potential.

If Carlos were to end up in Aston Martin then Bottas could go to Sauber/Audi and Tsunado could go to Williams.

Don’t know if it’s been mentioned but Ocon is being dumped at the end of the season.

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/13147234/esteban-ocon-alpine-driver-to-leave-team-at-end-of-2024-formula-1-season

That or Aston Martin if Laurence Stroll wants Aston Martin up at the top the Lance has to go.

Ocon and Gasly were just not a good pairing. The rest of the season should be fun watching them two together racing.

I wonder where he will end up. I would say he woukd like to go to to Sauber/Audi but will probably end up at Haas. We shull see.

Love an evening race…

RedBull posted on twitter, some announcement coming at 17:00 BST.

Not Totally. A little different but not totally. Red Bull will still be the same and so will Mclaren, Mercedes and Ferrari will both have a new driver, Aston Martin more than likely will be the same two drivers,

Haas, Sauber, VCARB, Williams and Alpine will all have at least one new driver.

So about 70 per cent different.

70% different is “totally different”…..

Boring! Compared to the 90s, the teams are holding on for far longer on drivers as those are part of the brand

Fair play to Perez’s negotiating team. Two years is a bit of a surprise to me. Read that the money he brings in is very material to Red Bull which I guess is all part of it. Presume they are happy enough the the driver dynamic too.

I was delighted for him when he got the shot at Red Bull after the Racing Point breakup as he deserved a good drive. There’s been a few false dawns but it’s felt like he’s stagnated this last year and generally lacks consistency. Would like to have seen him back in something like an Aston Martin but let’s see what happens.

It’s funny how the Red Bull tolerance for underperforming has changed over the years but again, theres more to it than that and circumstances have probably allowed it.

Looks to be a 1 +1, which makes more sense...

https://x.com/SMitchellF1/status/1798023678577553585?t=jh3XhVLd7-v04TKTUogQWw&s=19

Has to be a reasonable shot at the Visa Cash App seat for 2025 for Lawson. Maybe Perez being in the main team will work out for Lawson in the mid term if he impresses.

I don’t see the reason behind red bull announcing it now as not like Perez is going to want to leave. I expect Perez showed up with waving some notes in front of him and said I’m in for next few years

Rumour was that Audi asked RB for him, they declined to let him go so Audi would need to buy him out.
Although see the point of them buying a driver out, too many free agents for what they will be doing the next years.
Bottas, Sainz, Zhou, Ocon, Magnussen …

But Yuki is out of contract end of this season, so shouldnt be a problem for next season I wouldnt think.