Floods in Europe

I fear you will be proven correct. Hard to argue with the data

We've had several flood-related deaths in France over the last couple of months, including one woman whose house was literally burst apart by a torrent of mud. Happened about 50km from where I was working at the start of the month (Picardy), where the only topic of conversation while I was there was how many people have had their lives or livelihoods destroyed by flooding this year.

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When you've seen sixty years of your life washed away overnight, or found half your herd of cattled drowned in the morning, or had an entire year's worth of crops rot in the mud, there nothing ghoulish in talking about it.

In my conversations with family and friends back in Ireland, it seems like there's no comprehension as to how devastating these floods have been for us here on the Continent this year.

You are not the only Celtic Rambler round here and I went down to the river and looked at the river bursting its banks yesterday. It is the highest I have ever personally seen it but the pegelstand on Altebrücke is nowhere near as high as it has been in past decades and centuries.

Feck off with your doom and gloom salivation.

Homes and businesses get washed away because they are built where they shouldn't be or someone removed trees and vegetation which were anchoring the earth to the sides of the hill.

Here is a tip: if the placename has Hang or Bach or Gemünd in it then maybe you might want to consider what flood defences are in place before taking out the mortgage.

Here is a fact: The human brain can't properly process natural changes in climate as they take place beyond the duration of one mortal's lifetime. A few KMs from me is a valley through which a river flowed which was part of a tributary of the Rhein but that was tens of thousands of years ago.

I am sick to the back teeth of Climate doom mongers thinking they have even an elementary understanding of how climate works and preaching to the rest of us to repent our sins.

It's far too late to stop it, it's probably been too late to stop it 40 or 50 years ago.

If politicians and climate activists spent less time with climate taxes bullshit and more time encouraging adapting to the changing climate the world would be far better off.

Improved flood defenses, improved building standards, development of more drought resistant crops, reforestation etc are far useful things to be doing rather than the obsession with taxing everything which just means poorer people are affected as rich people are happy to pay the tax.

There is a degree of a doomsday cult to the climate crisis and you can clearly see some groups get off on the idea of trying to scare the **** out of people so they can control them rather than actually suggestions improvements to how we live they just come out with constant proclamations of doom for everyone.

Akrasia, I am offended by you exploiting floods to further your baseless agenda.

I can see on old bridges in the locality the high water marks etched in and the years are noted down beside them. There are years etched in to those old bridges from centuries before the Industrial revolution got in to full swing.

Floods happened, happen and will continue to happen and the sky is not falling in upon us.

I can see what I can see which is a documented history of flooding in central europe from before the time of the industrial revolution.

Doomsday scenarios have been predicted for the past 50 years, people get a little fed up with being told doomsday is around the corner be it acid rain, the ozone hole etc , if more effort was put into providing solutions than scaremongering more progress would be made.You can't blame people for being skeptical when some of the most high profile climate activists clearly appear to get off on scaring people with doomsday predictions.The messaging from the environmental groups of the politicians that represent them is appalling and very often contradictory.

For example we have a Green Party in Ireland and the UK who are supposed to be in favour of protecting this countries environment yet at the same time are also in favour of mass emigration to both Islands.This is massively contradictory as the worst thing that can happen for the environment in any country is increase in population.

People in Ireland aren't allowed to cut turf anymore and Bord Na Mona has been moved out of processing peat for power yet we are importing coal and peat from the continent.

Surely if carbon was so bad then why did Germany shut down all it's Nuclear plants and return to using carbon expensive coal and gas fired power stations.

Ireland has to reduce it's national herd yet Brazil is clearing rainforests and yet the EU and Ireland is going to be importing beef from Brazil.Wouldn't it have been much more environmentally friendly for Ireland to produce as much food as possible in Ireland and only import food which can't be produced here.

The environmentalist movement so full on contractions and also has people who support it with religious like zeal that it has a religious feel to it you can understand why people distrust it.

We need to improve how we operate as a society and be kinder to the environment but environmental groups and green parties and politicians in general have been dreadful at getting their message across over the years and it their own fault, they really need to up their game.

The reverse must also be true for the Anti Green Cult.

Do you mean that at you haven't read anything where scientists have claimed climate change is a factor. Or that you have read it and don't believe it, because you know more about the history of extreme weather events than the scientists who have studied it.

Or theres some old graffiti on a local bridge which you reckon which is more reliable source than statistical studies of historical records.

For my part I know nothing of these events other than the news articles where the history of these events was reported and why the scientists think it's different. I don't really see any articles with peer reviewed studies on why it's not climate change.

Which is more accurate you looking at a bridge or actual studies...

"…Learning from past events is an important tool for better understanding floods and for the provision of more effective protective measures against future events. According to the Fourth Assessment Report of the IPCC (Parry et al., 2007), the continuation of recent warming trends across Europe and changes in the water cycle are likely to increase the risk of floods in Northern, Central and Eastern Europe. Model calculations for the 2020s project an increased risk of winter floods in Northern Europe, coupled with flash floods across all of Europe. Recent 100-year return frequency floods should occur more frequently by the 2070s, not only in Northern and north Eastern Europe, but also in Central and Eastern Europe (cf. Kundzewicz et al., 2010)..."

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283600391_Historical_Floods_in_Europe_in_the_Past_Millennium