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Dangerous Dogs Owners

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭davidx40


    Why anyone would want a XL Bully or any type of dangerous breed as a pet is beyond me , the law should be changed in the morning making it illegal to own or breed them .….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,508 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    You don't see anyone with a respectful career or a good, grounded position in the community with those dogs.

    Funny that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison


    yeah there’s no “tradition” of XL bullies- they’re a bread invented for killing- plain and simple

    Dog on dog attacks are often the product of owners not being able to control their dogs- either off their leads or ignoring their dogs vicious tendencies of anger towards other dogs- even the smallest dog can demonstrate aggression towards bigger dogs- this needs managing and control by the owner at all times - they’re aware of it but the don’t always take the appropriate prevention actions



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,489 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    id say 99% of people who own these dogs are criminal drug dealers. from my experience.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,633 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,248 ✭✭✭saabsaab




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,543 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    The death of a politician's child, not a child of us lowly folk of no account.

    When we get attacked by scum, nothing happens. But when they are attacked, different story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,063 ✭✭✭kirving


    The only reason to own a dog like that is for the plausible deniability when you do decide to starve it for a week before setting it on someone.

    Owners of dogs which attack others need to be treated as if they themselves carried out the attack, in a premediated fashion, with a weapon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭delboythedub




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,982 ✭✭✭billyhead


    Rip to the victim here but what the hell was she doing with one of these dogs as a pet. Would a Labradoodle not do?



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  • Administrators Posts: 54,125 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    this is something that really irritates me. I see it all the time, some young lad or some small slip of a man/woman taking a big dog for a walk.

    You can tell, just by looking, that if their dog wants to go somewhere they aren’t going to have the strength to stop it. The dog is taking them for a walk rather than the other way around.

    I love dogs, I have no fear of dogs, I grew up with dogs, but many dog owners need a kick up the arse. They need to be held personally accountable for the actions of their animal.

    if you don’t personally have the strength to completely incapacitate your animal quickly then you should never be bringing it into a public place, on a lead or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭Oscar_Madison


    You could be a 6ft 4 body builder or whatever and still not be able to control an XL bully dog especially if off the lead- regardless of what way such a person could defend themselves against an attack, they’ll be piss poor use of their XL has bolted and attacked a kid 50 metres away



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,478 ✭✭✭blackbox


    Lots of people get dangerous looking dogs because they think the dogs will keep them safe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,982 ✭✭✭billyhead




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,335 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    There is a tiktok floating about that is supposedly from the woman who was killed from a few weeks ago...it's a compilation video of her and the dog with a voiceover (I am guessing lifted from another video) which has not aged well.

    Lines include

    "I don't give a f#ck if you think he looks aggressive"

    "I don't give a f#ck if you think the breed should be banned"





  • But that's what dogs do to each other to establish there position in a pack. It's not a bite to kill, it's just a nick to say it's not prey. Also around food they can get very defensive, also staring at in the eyes will make you look aggresive to the dog. Getting too close on first encounter is bad too. Most humans don't have a clue on how to interact with dogs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,633 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Some of the owners of these dogs enjoy the dangerous attention and are seemingly willing to take risks with their own lives. As mentioned earlier, 99% of them are brain dead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,678 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    How did she manage to have 4 dangerous dogs, I wonder were all chipped and licenced, sorry if that sounds victim blaming



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭Xander10




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭standardg60


    If ever there was a rational reason to victim blame, this is surely it.

    Anyone else who immediately thought of yer wan on liveline a couple of weeks ago complaining about having to give up her bull terrier cos they weren't allowed in her council house?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,502 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    You'd think some politician would have the brains to push for a ban on these, would be an easy political win. Really can't see much opposition to it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,489 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    And great for their image as a "hard man" the dog is just a weapon to them like carrying a gun.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,111 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Of course the minister responsible has to wait for an 'expert' report on the matter before acting, lest they be blamed for actually making a decision.

    You'd have to wonder why anyone votes for these people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭davepatr07


    Or Ramsay Bolton types… psychopathic

    RIP that girl in Limerick.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,842 ✭✭✭buried


    The way things are going ye have more chance seeing one of these f**king animals becoming a Taoiseach than being banned.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Dogs for thicko scrotes that should simply be illegal, putting an end to these needless tragedies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,089 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Perhaps her death won't be in vain if it makes other owners sit and look at their potential killer dog tonight and ask themselves "could that decide to maul me some day".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,453 ✭✭✭apache


    Had an argument with a bully scumbag breeder. He seems to think it's fine to crop their ears while they're young before blood vessels have grown. Such a barbaric practice.

    I've only ever seen scumbag owners of these bullies.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,980 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    People behave perplexingly toward their own dogs (and other pets of course). Some treat them like they are almost human and seem to believe they have self awareness and "feelings" whereas in reality they are just primative biological eating machines.

    This is OK if you have a small dog which will scarcely be a risk to anything I suppose but the same delusion with bigger dogs can be dangerous. The notion anyone would leave a baby with a grown husky is so stupid as to be Darwinistic. "Oh he loves the family, he's 8 years old...". All bs but the vast majority of people with that mindset set get away with it. You'd think nature stops at the door of their households.

    As for "scrote dog" breeds yeah something should be done about that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,678 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Yes I think it was, in her own home and was looking for training tips for said dog on Facebook I believe previously for the dog but I could be wrong



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,019 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Dog lover here, have 2 labradors. Love all dogs, or at least I did until I met an xl bully. And then later some sort of bull terrier cross, which actually bit me. And I've been around Rottweilers, German shepherds a good bit, great breeds of dogs too. Although very powerful.

    The girlfriends friend from work ended up minding xl bully last year, we dropped into her house to get something and was met by this abomination of muscle and teeth. Must have weighed what my 2 decent sized labs do together. Wasn't friendly either, it seemed a bit off with my presence and even scared of me which put me very on edge. I've gained trust of nervous dogs before, I've made a point of doing that but no way was I going near this thing. I was a bit worried for her leaving her alone with it but nothing happened. I'm a 100kg ex rugby player and I wouldn't fancy my chances if it did attack me, she would be bolloxed altogether.

    The dog that bit me was small, about 15kgs I'd guess but it's head must have been half that. Bull terrier cross something or other. Massive head and jaws. I walked into the room, it was grand with 2 females presence but not with me, jumped up and bit me on stomach ripping through a t shirt and breaking skin. I still have a small scar. Again, she was minding it for someone.

    These things are so far removed from suitable family pets or even suitable for the type of scrotes that but them.

    They should be banned. What's wrong with having the hundreds of dog breeds that aren't bred to be so powerful and savage. Something wrong in the genetic code, I reckon it's a very shallow gene pool too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,248 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Anybody who owns these dogs and has half a brain will think that.. but then again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,619 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls: "Very concerned about statements by the IOC at Paris2024 (M)ultiple international treaties and national constitutions specifically refer to women & their fundamental rights, so the world (understands) what women -and men- are. (H)ow can one assess fairness and justice if we do not know who we are being fair and just to?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,619 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    Yes this is what I was getting at earlier: dog owners are often unaware of the signals their own dogs are sending out, and then they’re shocked when the dog attacks. But the dog doesn’t generally attack with no warning. Same as the small dog biting the child on the arm: no dog, whatever the size, should be allowed to be jumping up at a child. That lack of control is a red flag and if it bites, the owner who says “Oh I can’t understand why” is just proving that they aren’t a fit owner.

    Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls: "Very concerned about statements by the IOC at Paris2024 (M)ultiple international treaties and national constitutions specifically refer to women & their fundamental rights, so the world (understands) what women -and men- are. (H)ow can one assess fairness and justice if we do not know who we are being fair and just to?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,011 ✭✭✭JanuarySnowstor


    The ban should be brought in immediately. Several cases in UK, all the same type of dog. There should be no ifs or buts it's 100% clear cut.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,842 ✭✭✭buried


    Forget about attack dogs for a minute. Anybody who owns any sort of dog without any actual beneficial reason for doing so, why do ye do it? Fair enough if you are a sheep farmer, need a guide dog, care dog, cattle farmer etc, but all these dog owners living in suburbia acquiring dogs just for some lifestyle choice, what is the point? Literally looking after some literally dependent animal without any beneficial reason for 12 years with no logical benefit for yourself or the animal either? Why do ye do it?

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,028 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    It's plain and simple that these dogs have to be banned. Too many people have been attacked or killed, thankfully the times I've been bitten it's been by small dogs. These dogs are just uncontrollable if they turn and it's pretty obvious the owners aren't capable of been taught to properly train and look after them. You have to take control out of the hands of owners and unfortunately the dogs have to go



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,019 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Hiking, playing, going for walks, getting you out and about, even though you can't talk to them dogs can be great company.

    Then there's people with mental health problems having a dog is great for them.

    Apart from that, I just like them. They're a bit of work alright but that's life. Always had a dog in the house growing up and have them now too. I actually got a 2nd so the 1st was as dependent on me, they entertain each other too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,089 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I have actually heard it said that pit bulls are great around children. Yip, hard to believe. Might just have been owners trying to justify their ownership?

    Apparently German shepards have the highest number of attacks annually. Not sure I'd true or not.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭SpoonyMcSpoon


    Not one but several restricted dog breeds in her house; nothing shocking about this tragic story unfortunately. It should be legal to cull these breeds on sight if the dimwitted scrote owners don’t think there is anything wrong with them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,187 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    That would require a level of awareness and intelligence that would be way beyond what an owner of those dogs could manage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 210 ✭✭davidx40


    There should be national cull of all XL bullys , pit bulls , akitas etc asap



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,619 ✭✭✭volchitsa


    Yes - I don't like to speak ill of the dead, but I can't understand how a 23 year old woman would have the time to look after FOUR large dogs properly.

    I'm including training in that, but even just the day-to-day exercising of four dogs wouldn't usually fit well into the life of a typical 20-something who doesn't have an outdoors-type job. So I'd suspect the dogs were getting woefully inadequate stimulation and exercise, and the fact that she knew she needed extra training for one of them shows there was en existing issue with behaviour.

    Absolutely tragic, but TBH at least it wasn't a neighbour's child whose life was destroyed.

    Reem Alsalem UNSR Violence Against Women and Girls: "Very concerned about statements by the IOC at Paris2024 (M)ultiple international treaties and national constitutions specifically refer to women & their fundamental rights, so the world (understands) what women -and men- are. (H)ow can one assess fairness and justice if we do not know who we are being fair and just to?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,633 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    She loved those dogs.



  • Administrators Posts: 54,125 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    If that dog bit you straight away like that without provocation from you then I would bet you are not the first person it has bitten.

    That dog should be put down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,089 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    4 incredibly strong dogs cooped up in a house, as in the Indo piece it's reports neighbours never seen any dogs. So no exercise for them.

    A very sad loss but I'm sure she also believed that xl bully's were lovely pets, wouldn't harm a fly etc.

    If I was the owner of one at this present time, I'd be making plans to get rid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,902 ✭✭✭standardg60


    Did I hear right this morning that whoever raised the alarm saw the attack on CCTV and forwarded the footage to her family?



  • Registered Users Posts: 261 ✭✭Frumy


    Who the hell records someone being mauled and gored to death by a dog then shares it online?

    The World is incredibly depraved.



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