Russia-Ukraine War

Gazprom increased its gas supply to Europe by 39%.

And Russia paid Ukraine 800 million euros to help transport it through to Europe up until May this year.

The mind boggles.

Ok I have gone through the entire voting history. Flanagan only voted on 1 issue in line with Wallace and Daly which I find contrary to the interests of Ukraine.

You identified migration votes as issues of concern. They are completely separate to the Russian invasion of Ukraine and actually I find myself in agreement with his opinion. I happen to believe Europe does not have an immigration problem, the problem Europe has is Racism towards immigrants. I think you and I will disagree on that but it is nothing to do with Ukraine and Russia.

Also the Green party, or least the Irish members of the Green party have not in any way shown lack of support to Ukraine.

I have concluded that you are trying to shoehorn your grievances with other unrelated policies into an agenda to which it does not fit.

You may not like Flanagan or the Greens, that's fine, but you have in my opinion deliberately and disingenuously shoe-horned them into a group with Wallace and Daly, and they do not fit there.

Thanks, at the moment on the grounds of voting preference down the ballot so that Clare Daly doesn't get re-elected \ better views on Ukraine than her, FF \ FG \ Greens and Labour are ahead.

Putin throwing his toys out of the pram today and saying he might supply weapons to countries who can hit western targets.

He’s rattled.

From St Petersburg today. The last tranche of weapons seems to have hit a nerve. No mention of denazification.

• There could be changes in US policy over Ukraine and Russia if US starts to focus on its own interests.

He does say that it's "hard to tell" if there will be changes should Trump gets elected, but you get the feeling he is hoping his old buddy wins.

Putin adds:

• We are not threatening anybody
• No one in the West wants to recall that war in Ukraine started from state coup in Ukraine
• United States provoked the coup in Ukraine, and after that Crimean people chose to leave Ukraine
• Russia tried to solve the crisis by peaceful means after the coup.
• Ukraine used weapons against peaceful citizens in eastern Ukraine.
• West lied to Russia over Minsk Accord
• we didn't attack we defended.
• On Western weapons supplied to Ukraine and says those who supply weapons also directed the weapons, it's very dangerous step.
• German tanks in Ukraine were a moral shock for Russia.
• Western Germany was not a sovereign state after World War II.
• If German missiles attack Russia, this will destroy relations between Russia and Germany
• I understand that Germany is dependent on United states.
• We still spoil gas to Europe via Ukraine.
• We also supply gas to Europe via Turkstream.
• Why Germany does not want to receive gas the one remaining leg up board straight
• Warns of consequences for Europe from expensive energy.
• It's important to keep up momentum for Russia's economic growth
• Weston flicks more harm for itself then Russia
• Russia's losses are way below Ukraine sources
• Ukraine losses are around 50,000 servicemen a month, both killed and wounded

Thats pretty outrageous, who's buying it? Those countries should be exposed as actively supporting Russia, there is no excuse…

Think we will all need to manage our expectations here

Actually, I think it was the only boat they could find lol

Another refinery hit. Damage looks enormous. But Russia should be able to repair this in a few weeks easily right? Bit pointless Ukraine even bothering with this? Right?

I find it more bizarre Russia and Ukraine are exchanging money and services while ah the same time launching missiles at each other on a daily basis.

It is bizarre and makes you realise the power of money that supposed deadly enemies can still cooperate on something like that

"Most Provoked War Imaginable"

This is deluded nonsense, with added whataboutery about Mexico, completely without foundation.

Ukraine wasn't in Russia. Russia attacks Ukraine from Russian territory so Ukraine defends itself.

Russia has violated multiple treaties with Ukraine, treaties designed to avoid provocation - Budapest for example, under which Ukraine gave up weapons that could have attacked Russia. The Kremlin lied about the content of Budapest, this is a matter of public record so you don't have to wait for their ladybird version. You can find that out for yourself easily enough instead of taking the Kremlin feed.

Everything Ukraine has done was within the bounds of treaties, going all the way back to Helsinki accords signed by the USSR. Which Russia claims to be the successor state of, when it suits it.

The only side that has been provoked is Ukraine, anything else is Russian propaganda without merit or foundation.

Everything the Kremlin says is lies has been a pretty good guide as far as this conflict goes.

How about you start listing all the things the Kremlin has lied about in relation to this conflict, and come back to us next year when you've finished the list.

Getting a little too into conspiracy theory revisionism there.

Calling the war a "current proxy war" is a little disengenuous. It's a full-scale invasion of another country by Putin, decided by Putin and can be ended at any time by Putin (by simply turning around)

Other countries are providing their limited support to the defender.

The idea that Russia planned to be stuck in a brutal protracted war of attrition years after the columns of tanks failed their thunder run on Kiev, years after their failed plan to decapitate Ukrainian leadership by landing at Hostamel is absolutely comical. As some sort of 4D chess move to avoid some guerilla warfare?

No. The simplest answer is the correct one.

Russia planned to storm kiev and kharkiv. Kill Zelensky, decapitate the government and military leadership. And then settle in for the long haul. But they failed due to a mixture of corruption, incompetence, western support, Ukrainian f*ck you attitude and Zelensky not running. There's a reason many of the invaders were being supplied with riot gear.

And we're still here because Putin just doesn't know how to take his cards off the table. Easy as.

Indeed. Russian soldiers had parade uniforms packed and Russian riot police (meant for curbing riots in Kyiv) accidentally found themselves on the front line. They didn't expect it to last long, neither did most analysts.