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No as it works in a power cut, in any case you wouldn't need 5A to get it going. What's the relevance exactly?

I think you're getting confused, the story never changed. Today there are many more DC fast chargers in that area, as there is in most of the country, but he bought in 2021.

At the time the car was cheaper than the EV equivalent, the running costs were slightly higher but there were no worries about range anxiety, charging availability or refilling times.

As previously stated it's a mobile home

No, he wouldn't have to find a charger at all. What he'd do is that he'd plug in and charge when only it was convenient - topping up while shopping in lidl for example, or using the chargers at his destination in westport for his local holiday driving.

With an EV only and no home charging, he has to find time to frequently plug into inconvenient and expensive public chargers to have the capacity to do any journey. Basically, the current crop of EVs have too short of range to make public charging only too inconvenient to be worthwhile. Maybe when we see 150kwh vehicles hit the mass market (they are becoming available in China) things will be different.

I don't really understand this to be honest. If a supply is limited to less than 5A, you have practically no electric power available, you couldn't boil a kettle. Most mobile homes have a 16A supply.

400km is the new 300km 🙂

That logic baffles me. If you're going to drive in EV mode 90% of the time, why not buy an EV? You have a larger battery, less maintenance, fewer parts failing, and you're not carrying around a large engine for the 10% of the time that you think you need it, thus reducing the range of said battery. I'm sure people can square it off in their heads, but it baffles me nonetheless. If they were doing 50% EV mode and 50% combined/ ICE, that would make more sense… or 40/ 60 in favour of ICE. I can only see the benefit of a PHEV if the majority of your driving is outside the limits of an EV range, or if home charging wasn't feasible.

That would likely be true, but the reality is that his use case is not all that suited for electric at all. He doesn't have home charging and public charging is an expensive faff - paying for parking and ecars extortionate pricing.

Environmental reasons do however seem to be a significant motivator for him so I think a good compromise for that case is PHEV. He can have as much electric driving as he's willing to go out and charge it but at the same time not absolutely have to find public chargers to go anywhere.

Motor wear? What is that? Do you find yourself reboring cylinders a lot?

Servicing an ICE is based on mileage or time. You can't have an engine for 10yrs and not service it because you've only done 5k.

You're thinking of charging like going to the petrol station. If you going do that just by an ice because you don't get it..

I agree with the poster who said it doesn't make any sense without a home charger either. Since you'd be charging it so frequently if you use EV mode the majority of the time. You'd want to be very dedicated. The stats say most people aren't.

As you say I think you'd need to be doing at least 50% of your driving in ICE for it to be worth it.

not what I asked, it's an easy enough question, if you think it's 10 or 20 times a year and that worries you unduly I get it, if it's once or twice buying a phev seems mad

If you have home charging then what point are you trying to argue? Is saves time if you simply plug it in when you get home, no need to visit a public charger which may be busy. I agree that buying a Phev without home charging is pointless.

Also buying a Phev isn't anti EV, it's a move towards EV. If we end up with EV chargers in every Lidl and Aldi carpark in the country then I reckon no one will ever say they're nervous about range. When I'm on a long drive as is I'll seek out a lidl or Aldi anyway.

I can say I've had trouble once in 12 months. But that was mostly due to my inexperience and some miss communication with passengers. One passenger disappeared for 30 mins thinking we were charging when we weren't. Which caused us to skip a planned charging stop leaving us tight. On the return journey we went a different route and drove differently meaning we did the same journey without stopping and had 30% left at the end.

Previous time doing the same journey in our ICE it went into limp mode. Start of lots of problems with it.

I've used public chargers about 20 times and most of those was just to test different chargers and make sure the payments worked. I've only hit two with a queue and one not working. Both times there were alternate chargers nearby.

ThIs thread just keeps on giving. If someone is happier to own and drive a phev then I for one am happy for him. One step closer to a full EV down the line.

I wonder if this chiding of phev owners could be the new driving a sports car middle age crisis thingy. In fairness us old guys need a break😆

1. Why is only folks without EVs that are mysteriously worried about "range"?