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Stuff we did before the UK

  • 02-06-2024 7:40pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭


    Something that really surprised me was that the UK didn't have a pre general election TV debate between the potential next PMs until 2010🧐 , we had the first such debate 30 years earlier between CJH & G.Fitz.



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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,228 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Smoking ban. I'm still fuming! 😉



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,810 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    There is an old line that, the English were still painting themselves with woad, when we were learned and civilised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,158 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    The Church of Ireland ordained a woman priest 4 years before the Church of England.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 193 ✭✭eltonyio


    Plastic bag levy.

    Bottle return scheme.

    Start a national lottery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭csirl


    Cable TV was the norm in urban areas of Ireland decades before cable/satellite TV became widespread in the UK.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭Dan Steely


    Can't remember that far back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭doc22


    We had Friends and Prison Break eps before uk



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭csirl


    Democracy. They still have an unelected head of state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭thereiver


    i think we organised our tax system in order to attract tech companys, and multinational corporations

    our civil service organisation ,goverment departments , social welfare system is broadly based on the uk system of government.

    thankfully we did not follow the british in privatising selling off government owned utilitys which has been a disaster in the uk. we wisely did not follow the uk in leaving the eu which has been a disaster for the uk economy.

    we allow competition in terms of telecom services ,internet and mobile service providers .

    uk has the bbc ,we have rte but other competing radio stations are allowed .

    i,m sceptical as to why the taxpayer has to fund 2fm when its very similar to other pop music stations in terms of its programming



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,818 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Whiskey production, although the babylonians probably beat the both of us



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,810 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Whilst UK and Ireland allowed limited voting for women in the 1918 election, I believe Ireland preceded UK in allowing equal voting rights to women.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,924 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    And we elected a woman to Westminster before the UK.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭silliussoddius




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81 ✭✭quodec


    Smoking ban…



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,716 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Well if you are talking politics then they are pretty much in the dark ages by comparison! They don't have a written constitution, they have an unelected head of state who has no responsibility to the people, an unelected upper house, a prime minister who can use the kings prerogative to subvert parliament, a king who has interfered with the operation of parliament to his advantage and all of those powers have been used very recently. On that basis alone it would not meet the EU's democracy rules for membership.

    And when it comes to financial services they are way behind in terms of consumer protection and so on. For instance you still have no legal rights righto access basic banking services and so on. A proper consumer credit register is missing, adequate supervision of high street banking and investing etc….

    Then food safety checks, clean water, medical admission, product safety and so on all of which they are falling behind in. Much of it comes down to economies of scale, they simply can't afford the infrastructure needed to do this on a global scale versus 27 countries plus the EFTA countries sharing the cost and the gap will grow over time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,148 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    First woman Bishop two years before the CoE also

    Could see them allowing same sex marriage well before the CoE too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,716 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    First mention of substitutions being used in GAA is in 1908.

    Substitutions were only added to the laws of Soccer in 1958.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Shan Doras


    How/When did king Charles 3 interfer with the operation of parliament to his advantage?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,148 ✭✭✭✭L1011




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Shan Doras


    Nick Clegg and the Libdems should really have made PR without referendum non negotiable in 2010, they could/should have offered to keep Gordon Brown as pm in exchange for PR



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,974 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    what is PR?

    I guess it is proportional representation

    Post edited by Jump_In_Jack on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,148 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    The referendum they accepted was a joke too - it wasn't real PR due to keeping single seat constituencies.

    We use the same method for when there is one seat, e.g. President or a by-election; but multi member constituencies are essential for PR; the more members the better. The 1997-2017 NI Assembly six-seat constituencies were ideal for this - you had things like one Unionist in Belfast West and one Nationalist in Lagan Valley - because there is a significant minority vote for those there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,759 ✭✭✭✭Marcusm


    you mean while we were still part of the U.K. - or else we wouldn’t have been sending anyone to Westminster (not that she went, she turned up at the Mansion House instead).



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,716 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    Google it, it was revealed under a FOI request….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    Deter the Roman Empire from Occupation.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,464 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Smoking ban and the levy on plastic bags.

    The fact that we still have a monarch here is absurd, frankly.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭indioblack


    " Did our ancient forebears use some form of body marking? Yes, although the archaeological evidence seems to suggest tattooing was performed for therapeutic or religious reasons rather than as simple body adornment. Was Woad the body-paint or tattoo ink of choice for ancient Britons and their northern Pictish neighbours? Almost certainly not. It performs poorly as a body-paint, is too highly caustic for a tattoo ink, and in neither case would a consistent blue colour result.


    So why does Woad-painted Britons hold such sway? Put simply, outside academia few people are aware of the mistranslation of Caesar and that his use of the word 'vitrum' does not equate with Woad. Most, therefore, are happy to hold as 'true' the accepted version of later antiquarians, and so the myth of bodies painted with swirling patterns in Woad is perpetuated by modern authors, documentaries and, of course, that scourge of historical accuracy, film and TV."

    Dispelling Some Myths: Woad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,882 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Famine

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    The Womans remarked on the native Britons tradition of body painting, this remained with the use of Picts for the tribes in Scotland/beyond the extent of their Northern Britain conquests.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,949 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    No such entity as "the uk" then.

    And no, we were raiding Roman Britain, taking slaves and infighting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    And engaging in necrophilia with horses according to Giraldus Cambrensis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,342 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    MUP. An absolute horrible stain on our country. A scam and profit making rape.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,158 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    And something Wales and Scotland had before us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,396 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Deposit return scheme. We're light years ahead of them on that the backward Neanderthals😋



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,342 ✭✭✭Gusser09




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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 13,160 Mod ✭✭✭✭iamstop




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 buckmulligan16


    Britain had Porter first and there are some suggestions that Guinness was a Welsh drink.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭corminators


    We had an inquiry and tribunal into people receiving hiv and hep-c infected blood in 1995.

    The brits just swept it under the carpet and gaslighted anybody who tried to get answers, and their tribunal is currently ongoing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,472 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    We were about a decade ahead of the UK on mobile phone adoption and coverage. I still remember being stunned by the lack of coverage on major roadways in the UK during the early to mid 00's.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Yeah Right


    Ah, the 'pipe'.

    I haven't heard anyone mentioning the pipe in years……"pipes gone'……



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,965 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Get rid of Horatian Nelson 😷😷😷



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,708 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Sorry but Ireland still uses PR for presidential and by elections.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,148 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    No, we use STV/AV for those - which is what the UK were going to use, they were going to keep single seat constituencies.

    You cannot have PR for a single seat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭paul71


    We elected a woman before the UK (although we were part of the UK at the time).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,708 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    But STV is close to PR in that eliminated candidates votes are transferred. It's not a first past the post system and voters mark their candidates with numbers in order of preference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,148 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    It isn't.

    Proportional Representation means that multiple seats are allocated proportionally

    You cannot have proportionality on a single seat.

    That is why it PR-STV for multiple seats.

    The UK intended to keep single seats, STV but not PR in any way shape or form.

    Australia does that and has wildly non-proportional results. LibNats got 36% and 58 seats, Labor 33% and 77 seats; Greens 12% and 4 seats.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,009 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    Allow unaccompanied minors to board a transatlantic flight at Dublin Airport 1985.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    PR is a horrible system, a recipe for fudge politics which leads to every party manifesto being watered down to nothing

    It also gives rise to TD,s being bogged down in local politics, Multi seat constituency means a sitting TD has to constantly look over their shoulder to see if they are seen to be outraged enough about some relatively overblown local gripe , if some squeaky hinge is seen to be more affronted, the TD risks loosing their seat , it's a prime reason why TD's oppose housing developments

    Our system is awful



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭JVince


    Started by Thwaites soda water back in 1799 in Dublin. 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,486 ✭✭✭StreetLight


    Building stuff.

    Newgrange Tumulus in County Meath is older than Stonehenge and the Egyptian Pyramids.



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