Non-Irish-Eligible/Qualified quotas for the Irish provinces

Multiple reasons why, Leinster just happened to win 5 finals in a row and have lost 4 in a row since. I would be asking why Leinster are the only team which decided to try win the Challange cup while the rest of the Irish sides seem to turn their nose up at it?

In terms of the win's it was never a high NIQ team, normally it was one big NIQ player which was the difference, not 5.

As the model should be, high quality, not high quantity.

As I said, a lot of big signing made over the years in Ulster, a lot of success stories? not really

https://rugbyunion.fandom.com/wiki/Ulster_Rugby/1998-1999 n

Who's NIQ out of that list? Probably Clinton van Rensburg (who I'd never heard of), but any others?

I guess two NIQ low teams have won the european cup then, not one.

Munster in 2006 had one NIQ in the starting team, and Trevor Halstead was a decent player but no more. You’re way off here tbh.

Leinster in 2009 had 4 NIQ's(Nacewa, Withtaker, Wright, Elsom)

Leinster team in 2011 had 2 NIQ's(Hines, Nacewa ) and two on bench(Wright and HVDM), Straus was a project player

Leinster team in 2012 had 2 NIQ's (Nacewa and Thorn) and one on bench(HVDM)

Leinster team in 2018 had 2 NIQ's (Nacewa and Fardy)

"high NIQ"? 🤔

They are all similar to the current options available to the provinces and your claim of Irish teams been more successful with more NIQ's is not really based in fact now it is?

No in the match day

You are grasping at straws now to back up incorrect claims :-) it's fun to watch but pointless going on anymore

You made the call that the teams had been more successful with loads of NIQ, this has turned out to be incorrect, the statement about Ulster was the funniest I give you that

The plan was always to have a large contingent of Irish players with a few top quality NIQ

You propose 5 and then a post later you propose 3 😂

Of course we have to have restrictions, the provinces have to be guarded against themselves as well.

So everyone seems to be in agreement to have 3, which is what is currently available

I doubt anyone actually thinks the IRFU will turn around and say no restrictions because that would be silly to do, so that is the current model we already have in place

Maybe the project player is something the provinces should look at options again along with players like Morgan who are IQ

Exactly, which goes back to the quantity over quality for NIQ. Ireland is producing some of the best players in the World and to sign players of equivalent or better from overseas you need to spend serious money. Money which none of the provinces are able to generate themselves so then the IRFU have to fund, which in turn makes the national team weaker.

Then when you are trying to sign these players they have top clubs from France etc with a lot more money available to them, should the IRFU get into more and more battles with foreign clubs to sign NIQ? or should they use that money to develop more player in Ireland?

I know the direction I want IRFU going.

Plus the whole premise of these threads is more NIQ = more success. I think we can put that one to bed and I have said from the start, signing a NIQ doesn't automatically mean they will be a success. A lot of them have been good, a lot of them have not worked out for numerous different reasons,.

I'd say Leinster would be okay with zero NIQs from the start of the season after next. They could sign Josh Murphy to replace Snyman, and Deeny and O'Tighearnaigh will be more developed by then, all being well.

Maybe they try to sign a pacy back three player like Shaun Stevenson.