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2024 Irish local elections Galway.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,400 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    Whoever it is will probably have to fist fight Eddie Hoare for the chain back. I'd say he'd turn up to the opening of a pack of Tayto at the moment if he thought he'd get his photo taken.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,400 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    Final stretch for this. Still have to figure out who I'm voting for. I'll probably give Eibhlin from the Soc Dems my 1 since I actually had a good conversation with her and think she'll give it a good go if in, but no idea after that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,185 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    You should make your vote go far as possible, vote all the way down the ballot paper



  • Registered Users Posts: 289 ✭✭CuriousCucumber


    Decided to do some research on all the candidates for Oranmore/Athenry.

    A tiny caveat, I immediately wrote off 3 candidates that I disagree with, so I was left with 10 candidates to read up on.

    Apart from a small number, it' very difficult to find any information regarding what they are running on.

    I assumed they'd all have websites, listing what their priorities are. It's shocking, that there are only 3 candidates that seem to be transparent in terms of what they are trying to do

    I understand zell12's point about voting all the way down the ballot paper, but I'm struggling to prioritise to be honest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,100 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    I reckon I'll vote for anyone who actually bothers their ar$e actually knocking on my door.

    We've had zillions of leaflets but no faces so far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭1641


    I find it easiest to list them according to those I have fewest (or most) reservations about and vote down the list. After eliminating 4 of them totally, I have 12 left in order of preference. I wouldn't wish to see a few of these 12 elected either but if push comes to shove I would prefer them to squeeze in ahead of the 4 I am leaving out completely.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Its a good question, have not heard anything from the main party's on it. The PD's, FG and FF have in the past number of Councils been aligned with each other

    NEW WIKI Page - worth keeping an eye on from Saturday (not me )

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Galway_City_Council_election



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,400 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    Not really the same at locals since they won't be forming a coalition. There will be unofficial pacts though. They'll start to form on Saturday when the talliers start to get an idea of who will be elected



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭rustyfrog


    The pacts and alliances will likely dictate who's in the rotation for major.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭rustyfrog


    "I am more disturbed at the fact that a labour party official has access to the front page of a free newspaper (with a circulation of 30k) especially at the time of an election."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Yeah I'm sure that's because one of their reporters is involved with Labour and not because the sales department at the paper got a massive payday for that wraparound. 😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭rustyfrog


    Mates rates ;-)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭what_traffic




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Yea saw that spread, thats paid advertising, no newspaper could refuse a payday like that, probably 5-10k I would imagine.I have to say that since I made my initial observation on the possible political bias displayed by Maxim Kelly he has largely been relegated to the non political stories and seems to concentrate on arts,culture, and gigs.It seems there is still a level of integrity at the GA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,463 ✭✭✭Homelander


    Not exactly but you would be taking quite a few thousand at least.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Well the big day is tomorrow,one of the main issues in Galway city is the traffic gridlock as recently highlighted by RTE

    https://www.rte.ie/news/connacht/2024/0529/1452002-galway-traffic/

    I support a by pass as part of the solution to the chaos in Galway City and will vote for parties/candidates that reflect that position,I will post guide to party positions below.

    Fine Gael- for by pass and PT solutions.

    Fianna Fail- For by pass and PT solutions.

    Labour- Niall McNeillis supports another bridge and other PT solutions, I assume also a by pass.

    Green Party- Vehemently opposes by pass and wants only PT solutions to be considered,the party has been instrumental in delaying by pass for decades even welcoming and supporting the high court decision to halt it.

    Social Democrats-not sure to be honest,one of their candidates is a cycling advocate but they are very quiet on the issue.I do recall that one of the last SD councilors was in favour of a small by pass whatever that means,the SD might be running with hare and hunting with the hounds.

    Sinn Fein-No sure where they stand at the moment but I think they want a by pass

    PBP- Against everything as far as I can see, they may consider a bamboo type structure over the corrib and a ricksaw based PT system.I think they will also mandate bicycles and mao style suits for everybody.

    Independents-Most seem to be pro by pass, I have had difficulty getting the necessary information for all the candidates

    All the new right wing parties(too numerous to list)- seems they have no policy/solution on the traffic chaos in Galway that I can see.

    There you have it folks,my essential guide to local elections, if you are sick to your back teeth about the gridlock in this city, vote for parties/ candidates that actually want to remedy the situation with a comprehensive plan that includes the essential by pass.

    Post edited by kabakuyu on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    Green Party- Vehemently opposes by pass and wants only PT solutions to be considered,the party has been instrumental in delaying by pass for decades even going to the high court to block it.

    Is that accurate? Can you point to any news references confirming it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 321 ✭✭MenloPete


    No, It's not accurate. High Court cases were brought by Peter Sweetman and Hands Across the Corrib Ltd - neither are affiliated with the Green Party



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,185 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Sinn Fein-Not sure where they stand at the moment but I think they want a by pass

    SF are demanding a bypass. Cathal Ó Conchúir stated that if they go into Govt, the bypass will happen, not maybe, not if, but will happen



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,185 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Can I remind people to rank paper all the way down, your vote will go much further. Example 20 candidates running in City East for 6 seats, that will be a very long count of transfers. Councillors have gotten elected on 1 vote in the past



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Ah come on now,their all the same crowd, all have the same agenda, two cheeks of the same arse.Pauline O'Reilley, Brian Leddin TD and the green party were ecstatic when the by pass was halted,dont take the electorate for fools.

    I will repeat it again. if you want a solution to Galways traffic problems that includes a vital by pass,dont vote for the greens and avoid giving them any preference.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,270 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    I can't vote for himself as I live in Dublin now but I would encourage anyone in my childhood ward of Galway West to give Cllr Alan Curran of the Social Democrats their highest possible preference.

    We grew up together and are still good friends. He's a rarity in Irish politics imho: honest, capable and well aware that while a Galway City Councillor has limited powers, he can at least do some good in the role.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭1641


    Is that their position as of today? Or yesterday? Or the day before?

    What's the wind forecast for tomorrow?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,185 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Cathal said so on local radio a few months ago. Farrell raised issue in Dáil in January



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,681 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Its like a talk shop here.

    Have ye decided who to give number 1 to?

    Going to vote for Declan Kelly myself.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    He appears to be everything you say he is and I wish him luck in the election, but no vote vote for him from me as I do not reside his ward.

    In all honestly I could not vote for the SDs, they were very cynical in their parachuting of Alan Curran into the East ward after their abysmal handling of the Owen Hanley scandal. They left the East ward under represented knowing full well that Alan C would be contesting the west ward in future elections, it appeared to be a ploy to boost his public profile and was a slap in the face for east ward voters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,795 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Connemara North must have one of the shortest list of candidates going for election in the country with 8 candidates for 4 seats.

    I hadn't decided who to vote for except my #1 so I decided I would give my preferences to those who called to my house and engaged with me.

    However NOT ONE candidate (including my #1) or their crew bothered their arses coming to my door. Even the two that actually live in town didn't show.

    I still have no idea who a couple of the independents are as they don't seem to have an online presence either. I wish there was a way to downvote the lot of them.

    None of the Euro candidates called either but in fairness they had a lot more ground to cover.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,787 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Yes, but note that if your first pref is elected on the second or later counts none of your other preferences get used.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭rustyfrog


    My understanding is they didn't have anyone in the east that was ready to step up at short notice to take the seat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    That's not strictly true. Your vote could still transfer as part of the distribution of a surplus.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    So you are acknowledging that the claim you made is untrue. Thank you for that, I guess. Also no mention of the Galway Races Committee and a local building supplies firm being equal parties in the most recent action.

    Another one to file under: "if your argument was a strong one to begin with you wouldn't have to make $h1t up to try to get your point across".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    It is a huge conSTITUENCY though

    I really think Connemara should be split into 3 wards. Moycullen / Bearna Spiddal in a Connemara City Metro Ward and then have South and North Connemara Ward based on the Gaeltacht. South from Carna to Cois Fharraige and North Oughterard to Clifden

    Post edited by what_traffic on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Am hoping we get some new faces and some of the old faces who have been around last 20 yrs are gone. Really should have a 2/3 term limit for a local Cllr. If ya haven't achieved what ya wanted in 3 terms then be gone with ya



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,400 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    Ya specially when they come along promising to improve things and you're left wondering why they didn't bother doing any of that in the last couple of decades they were in the position. Or my other pet peeve is them promising things they don't have much control over in the job. Which means they're either straight up lying or uninformed of what the job entails. Neither one being great.

    I don't need someone that'll fix the potholes outside my house. I need someone that'll work towards a system where all potholes will be fixed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,185 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Uh-oh Cllr Keane has made a boo boo

    Councillor Keane claimed in an article in the Galway City Tribune that he was seeking to “reverse the changes made a decade ago, which have since disrupted traditional educational pathways and have adversely affected local families”.

    As well as writing to Minister Norma Foley, Councillor Keane wrote to Bishop Michael Duignan, in which he repeated the claim. “As you are aware, Scoil Éinde was previously deemed a feeder school for Coláiste Éinde with the Admissions Policy for Coláiste Éinde reflecting this through the inclusion of the Parish of Salthill as a determining factor,”

    But Michael Gallagher, former principal of Scoil Éinde, said he was “utterly appalled and astounded” by what he described as “misinformation” and “blatant lies”.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    For the election map nerds

    Galway City Elections - Polling Scheme

    https://galwaycityco.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=9928b3a1f82b42a0b649112b97e0eedc

    Has 3 different MAP Layers

    • Polling Stations
    • Polling Districts
    • Electoral Areas



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭1641


    The problem is that collectively we the electorate like a bit of pie in the sky. Cake and eat it if you like. Anyone offering the bald truth is unlikely to get enough votes to get elected - once the other guys are making better promises, deliverable or not. The trick is not to be so outlandish as to be transparently false to everyone. And that leaves loads of leeway for candidates.

    Anyway everyone secretly wants their own pothole fixed!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭what_traffic




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    GGenuine mistake and it has been corrected.Easyone to make when we had Senator Oreilley making political capital of the situation. Btw we are discussing the local elections here,I cant vote for the other opponents of the by pass but the people of Galway can make their feelings known about the GP and many will remember the jubilation of the GP when it was halted.

    On the subject of talking and making up shite,no one comes close to the GP and their acolytes.

    Seems the SDs oppose by pass as well.I urge voters to vote for pro by pass parties and do not give opponents of by pass any transfers.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,400 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    Sounds like he listened to the gossip and didn't bother with his own research. Ironically the only other reason I know his name is from when he complained about the media coverage over the council move to Crown Square. This lad will never read past the headline and jump to whatever he thinks is popular.

    The Irish do like a bit of cute whorism alright. Like to feel we're getting an inside track. Time to grow up though. That's why we have a lot of the problems we have and no long term thinking.

    People need to realise that they're all our potholes!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Sure this is a mad idea first mooted by the unelected GP councilor Niall Murphy.He proposed it because he is in trouble in the polls,and then he comes up with nonsense that is ageist and discriminanory.For him and other GREENS to suggest this policy is astounding.His envy of long standing and effective councilors is understandable but it is hard to believe that there are GP members who would endorse this policy.

    Might be more the GP line to suggest a mechanism for replacing sitting councilors other than co opting.

    It beggars belief that a GP councilor who never got 1 vote up to yesterday in Galway city should try to impede others from seeking election and that there are others that agree with him.Democracy me arse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,185 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Keane said the pedestrian crossing lights at Spanish Arch are causing motorist traffic jams - surely you heard that!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    He also tried to gas light his constituents by claiming to be promoting active travel when he tabled a motion to take away the main safety changes being proposed outside Scoil Fhursa. At the same time, in a city where 20% of households don't have access to a car (and you can be certain the majority of that is for economic reasons), he referred to people walking and cycling to work or education as enjoying a luxury. Those comfortably sitting in cars are the oppressed sufferers in Keane's mind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,787 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    If a candidate is elected on the first count, by exceeding the quota, all of their votes will be considered when distributing the surplus.

    However, on later counts, when a candidate exceeds the quota, it is only the votes in the last bundle that brought them over the quota that are used in distributing the surplus.

    Let's say I give first pref to candidate A, who is a fairly strong candidate. She gets 5,000 votes, quota is 8,000.

    First count: A does not reach the quota

    2nd count: A receives some distributed votes, but still below the quota

    3rd count: same again

    4th count: same again

    5th count, same again, she is now at 7,500 votes

    6th count: she receives 600 votes to bring her over the quota, she now has 8,100 votes.

    She is elected.

    Her surplus of 100 votes is distributed.

    The original 5,000 first prefs are ignored. They only look at the bundle of votes that took her over the quota. An element of randomness is introduced

    My vote is buried in the 5,000 pile, and my other prefs will not be used.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Unrealistic


    Sorry, you are correct. I misread your original post I was responding to.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,787 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    https://irelandelection.com/index.php

    This website is useful to see results of past elections.

    I assume it will be updated during the counts tomorrow.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Be aware people that the SDs also oppose the by pass, they have been flying under the radar on the matter and have avoided public comment on the issue.

    Remember who to blame when you are sitting in gridlock.No votes for the Greens and SDs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,400 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    Where did you see that?

    Edit: Never mind. Doesn't really matter. If you're voting based on who's for or against it then it's a bit of a wast of a vote. The Council are already chasing it and resubmitting proposals. They've had it on their vision board for the last 20+ years so don't need councilors lobbying for it. Then it's down to ABP to grant permission or reject again. No local councilor will have any input on that and ABP aren't going to be swayed by a local councilor. And then we're back to my earlier point about them lying or being uninformed of what the position entails.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,565 ✭✭✭kabakuyu


    Have you seen different? are you saying that Alan Curran, Justine Heaslip and Eiblinn Seoighte are for the by pass?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,287 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    I'll give both something now knowing that, thanks.



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