Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

so no tents in last week before an election and now suddenly they appear again. There is something very rotten going on in this country.

Whoever is supplying the tents... They need to be spoken to.

In fairness, the laws on foreign national voting rights came into effect via referendum in 1999 — long before the more recent increases in immigration — while the granting of voting rights to asylum seekers came about in 2004 (which obviously is long before the topic of asylum seekers was a prominent issue in Ireland). You're saying "no wonder the NGOs pushed it through" as if these laws were some very recent move to capitalise on the spike in applications for asylum experienced since 2022.

The voting rights you speak of are also limited to local elections only, so I'm not sure that they will have a material effect as regards border control — a matter which is not within the remit of local councils. This is a policy area tied to national government and therefore is influenced by the outcome of general elections, in which non-EU citizens are not allowed to vote.

Even with all that, you still have to go through the process of registering to vote and then actually go vote — not sure how many actually have done that.

To show their support for the Green Party

what was the original justification for needing a referendum. It was obviously well before there 30k/annum arriving but why were we asked to change it too allow people who aren't here a wet week having a say how our county councils are run?

I'm a bit late to the party, but the county council released the updated Supplementary Register. I believe they call it something else now.

The referendum was to put reference to local government into the constitution, it did not appear before then.

Just to be clear— the 1999 referendum incorporated (inter alia) a constitutional right to vote in local elections for Irish citizens and "such other persons as may be determined by law" to vote in such elections. The actual extension of voting rights in local elections to asylum seekers (thus making them "such other persons as may be determined by law") came 5 years later by changes to rules that allowed Temporary Registration Certificates or Garda National Immigration Bureau cards carried by asylum seekers to be used as valid ID for the purposes of voting.

On a conceptual level, I understand the motivation to have been that giving a limited form of franchise to asylum seekers (i.e. to vote in local elections only) would be in promotion of their sense of civic participation and integration.

I have no idea what your trying to say here? I can't believe that anyone could have issues with allowing people living in areas to have a say over the local government of those areas.

"You can vote in a local election if you are a non-EU citizen, regardless of the type of residence you hold, or if you are seeking asylum and have not had a decision on your application."

But if im wrong here and open to correction, Person A & B who are waiting on application decision vote for FF and Person C who is Irish votes for Independent but then A & B are deported but they have voted in FF in the area they dont live or reside anymore then its basically a free for all cause if your looking for Asylum here and you get these candidates promising you to help you settle etc then your going with them

On the streets of Leeson St.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeqyWY5b/

Can confirm 100% non EU citizens can vote here.

My GF was here almost 2 year’s without a visa, but has one now & needs to be renewed every year & a letter came 2 weeks ago for her to register to vote. She never bothered & couldn’t actually believe it…

Absolute madness & stinks of corruption of the highest order.

I think the point most people are going at is while those who are not fully approved by the gov to stay in the country they can in fact still vote in the local election so it can give an advantage to the those parties who want be seen as great they are helping us so AS will vote for them but joe public will more than like have to actually deal with the repercussions of this vote as As can be deported tomorrow (it wont happen cause you know, Its McEntee)

How is it corruption?

your girlfriend my not care about voting, fair enough, but there are plenty of people who would like to vote in their local elections.