Dangerous Dogs Owners

Come on so, 20 years experience, start the criteria and let's put at least 1 dog breed on the list to be banned.....

We can add more later but let's start simple.

Any I don't care about families and kids, especially as your only using it as an emotive argument, which should not be a reason to allow dangerous dogs with families and kids anyway.

If a dog is dangerous it's dangerous. If fact starting this will probably save lives of families and kids in the future.

Comparison between attacks or deaths by different dog breeds are meaningless and in fact very biased if you do not take the popularity of each breed into consideration.

Restricted breeds list doesn't mean those dogs are dangerous.

Any dog 20kg and over have possible ability to do serious damage to adult.

Any small dog has possible ability to do serious damage to children.

I've read some strange internet stats about the amount of labrador bites but I don't really believe it.

Well it's probably true in absolute terms, ie, there are so few Rhodesian Ridgebacks around that it would be very hard to find one to get bitten by. Labradors, OTOH, as you say…

But that doesn't mean Labs are more dangerous than Rhodesian Ridgebacks. Find 1000 of each, and see how many have bitten - that will give a more accurate idea.

Anyway, don't think either labs or ridgebacks are the problem here, they're a bit different to the Manson family of canine genetics that seems to have been imported from USA

The reason American pitbulls don't have a much stronger bite than Retrievers (though they are ahead, even in absolute terms) is because they are smaller. So all you'd have to do would be measure the bite strength in terms of the weight of the dog (or average weight, perhaps).

But it's like any law, whether age for drinking, or blood levels for alcohol: there's no perfect number but that doesn't make legislation impossible, and people claiming it does generally have an agenda, IMO.

Second, the claim that children would be unhappy because their pitbulls are being castrated (UK law allowed a period for requesting exemptions for existing dogs under certain conditions; so Ireland could do the same) just doesn't matter much. Not compared to the fact that it could be saving the chld's life.

And if the dog is actually removed because the parents haven't bothered to apply for an exemption within the stated time period, well TBH, that's all the more reason to remove the dog for the child's safety.

From 1979 to 1998 Labs have been involved in 5 fatal maulings in the USA. Rhodesian Ridgebacks 1. The most fatal attacks were from humans, over 350,000 deaths, then Pitbull Terriers 76, followed by Rottweilers 44.

Rhodesian Ridgebacks are not known for being aggressive. Ridgebacks are protective of children and other household members. These are excellent natural watchdogs and family protectors, but they do need to know that the owner is in charge.

Have two, not purebreds, because simply couldn't afford the price (rather put money towards to care of them) and they are excellent.

So why if they aren’t dangerous, or a real threat (if they turn) are they on a restricted list? You’re playing with words here

Threat level and consequences from dogs turning is key here. Large and strong and powerful dogs present far deadlier threat if they turn

Just to say, there's almost nothing enforced in this country when it comes to dogs. Breeding, ownership. Shelters full, because of too many stupid people.

I know plenty posters here don't like when it's being said it's not a dog but the owner, but that's exactly what it is!

There are always plenty of factors in play I guess. Myself I was very lucky, when getting dogs in Ireland. My first here was a black lab, she's 14 this year and amazing experience thanks to the breeder, she got a great start to her life, when visiting her home place first time, pups were running in the paddock with two goats, hens and some rabbits. No pressure on time spending looking at them and interacting with them to pick the right one. She's still alive and always has been great companion to us. She did the same for the two young girls too. Even they are bigger stronger, they absolutely respect her, to watch how they play and interact is something. And the same experience was when I was getting another pup 2 years ago, we spent good few hours just in the middle of the mayhem of 15 weeks old pups and their mother putting a manners on them, she was purebred Rhodesian Ridgeback, didn't see the father Border collie. But again no disappointment, I was able to see happy pups in great environment, which gave them great start to the life. I suspect in both cases, if I pointed my finger after 5 minutes watching and say I take this one, I would be politely asked to fook off😁.

I think when people getting a dog, doesn't matter the size or breed, should realise it takes work and commitment. And it is rewarding for both human and the dog.

A stray Doberman started hanging around our house years ago . Daddy called the dog pound or rspa . A man came out in a lorry to lift it and the man just picked it up and put in the passenger seat of his cab . It was a friendly enough dog but no way could it be trusted near people

I'm not playing with words, that list doesn't make much sense anyway and at the end is pointless to have a list on paper and no action on the streets. The very basic rule of dog being on the leash in public is ignored by plenty of dog owners and authorities. So what do you think ban will achieve?

I'll give you an answer, sweet fook all.

Defo not, they are like a sharks. Best to cull all of them!

Just kidding, this thread wouldn't be the best one to look for an advice, way too much búllshit posts. There's Pet's section on boards, you'll have a better chance to get honest advice there.

Edit: https://www.boards.ie/categories/pets-pet-care

It depends if they know you or not . Great dogs if they know you but a torture for postmen .

Generally as far as I’ve seen great with children