Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

I poked fun at what the poster said, not the poster.

I think that's allowed, unless you want it 'cancelled' 🙄

A lot of independents aren't 'right wing' though. Many of these will have campaigned in this election on local issues and others will have previously been left or centre affiliated. The ones fixated on immigration or refugees will presumably join the actual right wing / hard right parties.

I believe we are inextricably shaped by the landscape and people we grew up around, and if you move away, you take a piece of that with you. Being away often reminds me that the kindness of Irish strangers is like no other. I’ll meet other Irish people, and that bond is warm and familiar.

No matter what city you’re in, whatever part of the world, and whether you’re there for two days or two years, you are always glad to find someone who shares a piece of Ireland with you. And there’s nothing more special than getting to share The Magic of Ireland.

It’s sad you don’t think the concept exists. All people have different characteristics and no the Irish are not homogenous but I think there is a sense of belonging that links us.

Has there been “a significant increase in the independents”? 19% is more or less the same vote share as it was in 2019, which was 3% down on the their 2014 vote share.

Actually BAAB said 25 per cent ..the correct number is 20% as you say Augme .

Sure what's another 5 % added on , which most people who are informed would know, so baffling that BAAB would not supply the correct figure .

"with around 25% of our population identifying as foreign born "

according to this above from @Blind As A Bat .

And in another post talking about helping little Adil and Karim integrate in school I frankly don't believe is heartfelt at all ..(Maybe it's because the strong nativist sentiment would not go down too well in the workplace ? )

Considering previous posts which state that even those who identify as Irish with Irish passports are not Irish by some characteristics which would disqualify them from the total Irish package .

Who gives anybody here the right to decides this on these flimsy and ill judged reference points ?

What is next ?

If you don't know any Irish poetry , if you don't speak Irish , if you don't have freckles , if you have sallow skin , if you have never been to a céilí …?

How many people who consider themselves Irish and are functioning citizens of this country will pass these arbitrary tests ?

And why is this being discussed on a thread about refugees /IPAs

( Of course where else would somebody even try to shoehorn this type of discussion in )

This discussion reminds me of White Supremacists and discussing Obama and his birth certificate.

Just a load of nonsense to try to deflect from the local election results .

"Actually BAAB said 25 per cent ..the correct number is 20% as you say Augme ".

Thank you for the correction. The figure is 25% only in Dublin. I confused it with the fact that 76.6% of people who completed the 2022 Census identified as ethnically Irish. In 2016 it was 82.2%.

The information regarding attacks on border guards in Poland? It's on many different mainstream news sites but I got it from Notes From Poland.

https://notesfrompoland.com/about-us/

As the country is well aware at this stage, the current AS process merely serves as a vessel for illegal migration.

Anyone who is deluded enough to think otherwise isn't worth engaging with, they're only in it to bait and report.

They just keep coming and coming. We looked the other way too long.

Just a quick response to the various posters who seem to think I'm a white supremacist or something similar, I may come across as a bit 'wrap the green flag round me boys' but I'm not a racist, right wing nut job.

I do think however, that we as a nation (and by we, I mean those of us of Irish descent) are pretty complacent. We take what's left of our heritage for granted. We seem to think that somehow because a surprising amount of it survived 800 years of colonisation, famine and effective genocide, it will automatically continue to exist. Just don't be too sure of that. If people of Irish descent become a minority, there is a chance that it won't survive. Maybe some people really don't care. I'm just saying that I do.

As I've said numerous times I don't have any issue with foreigner settling permanently in Ireland but I'd prefer to see proper, skills based quotas, and greater control of numbers especially when it comes to lone males from countries like Nigeria, Georgia and Pakistan. 30,000 a year over the next ten years will add nothing desirable to our culture in my view and will ruin us economically if we continue to fund it at the level we are. And to get back to the bottom line, how in God's name are we going to house them?? In the immediate future and the long term future - bearing in mind that those accepted for asylum will then bring their families.

I'm also worried about the fact that we know there must be some dangerous men amongst them. The law of averages would tell us that. I'm baffled as to why some people don't seem to be worried by that.

Anyway, I'm not going to keep repeating myself. That's it.

So if the law changes and asylum claims from a set list of countries (aka a safe list) are deemed invalid, and therefore not worthy of consideration, you have no issue with that?

Good to hear.

I agree it's disgusting to see it turned into a hate symbol.

Especially when some of this group also have it in for Irish people who disagree with them, or those who don't fit their ideas of Irishness.

Agree with most of your post ,BAAB as regards quotas and housing

Just think that being Irish is evolving constantly.We have changed as a people both culturally and socially so much from my parent's generation as they did from their grandparents and we may indeed find our grandchildren totally different as well both culturally and in every other way .😊

We are still Irish though , as will they be .

Thought it was the NGOs who were The Evil Ones ?!

maybe not if they are watching the huge marie le pen vote in france and macrons call for a snap election europe is rapidly changing albeit somewhat slower here