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Athletics 2024 (Mod note #869)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭Wottle


    https://x.com/TrackGazette/status/1799572426528817376?t=AEGYO2Dx164fN0lOy2t8KQ&s=19

    And Nickisha Pryce of Jamaica, 48.89s to win the NCAA women's 400m title in Oregon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,191 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Don't forget Sydney McLaughlin, who ran 48.75 on Saturday and may yet attempt the 400m/400mHurdles double.

    And the defending champ has yet to show her hand this year. The event might be loaded yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 658 ✭✭✭unichick


    I was laughing at the men’s 200 metre final when Greg said it’s wide open. Anyone from lanes 3-9 could win it. Next thing the Swiss lad wins it in lane 2!

    I’m enjoying the RTE coverage though it is patchy at times. Well done to all the athletes who’ve made this the best one for Ireland ever!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭Rossi7


    In the bag 😂 she had to run a national record



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Mawdsley out again this morning in the relay heats. Some effort from her. Cadden in for Adeleke. Presumably they felt they needed to get one of the two out to make the final. Hopefully it's comfortable enough that she doesn't need to go full tilt at it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 894 ✭✭✭Delboy5


    Looking like the women's 400 will be an almighty battle for the medals come Paris, there's been a lot of good times posted so far this year. Probably need a sub 49 to medal?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,191 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    Yeah agreed - there are 5 or 6 who could win, and quite possibly sub 49 needed to medal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    Decent performance from Men's 4x400m on what is a weakened team. If anyone remembers the days of Project 4x4. We've come a long way.

    As an explainer. Please don't get roped into this persons relay split or that persons split. There's a hefty changeover zone and not everyone gets away cleanly from changeover traffic.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    Greg has done well but he does seem to think that people speed up at the end of 400s. He absolutely had the house put on Adeleke last night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,191 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Jesus, Mawdsley is just the anchor queen!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    F me. That women's 4x4. And the OG, Phil Healy. What a time to rediscover her form. Of all that she's been through. Absolutely deserves the high to deliver an Irish 4x4 to a final.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Mawdsley incredible in the relays again. Made up a huge amount of ground on the Belgian there and won pulling up in the end. Absolutely needed her in there though, it was competitive and if they had rested both Adeleke and Mawdsley as was I think the original plan, they'd have been out. Another huge medal chance tomorrow now if Adeleke comes back in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    Unreal. Herself and Chris O'Donnell are close. I'd say once one of them was going to come back out, the other was likely to join in.

    Pity Barr couldn't have come out for Doggett.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭geotrig


    Im just a bit in love with this athletics team, so great to have something to cheer on in shorter distances.

    Although 400m has to be near on one of the hardest races there is



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    The Dutch very lucky to sneak through there. Just squeezed in ahead of the Norwegians and they wouldn't have got a fastest loser place. Czechs dropped the baton in their heat as well, the Dutch might have been gone but for that too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,236 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Just caught the women's 4 x 4. Mawdsley is a freak of a runner….strangely, she always seems to run much better in the relay format than individually.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    Be hard to judge if that's true or not. She's incredibly strong from a 4 Hurdles background so doesn't tend to blow up in the 4x4. But she's remarkably consistent in the 400 individual. You could definitely call this her breakout season. Becker too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,709 ✭✭✭Tombo2001


    I'd be a bit concerned about the effort put in by Mawdsley there, it will be her fifth race in 7 days - is Adeleke in the final?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    It's an incredibly strong team. To have someone of the of the quality of Phil Healy be only your fourth ranked team member is really something.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,236 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I get the impression she really enjoys the tactics of running a final relay leg - it's something that suits her and something she is very good at.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    She certainly has the patience and temperament for it. Incredibly strong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    Phil is on her way back from a bad luck injury series. It's remarkable that she's there really.

    I'd even go further and say that the reason we have such a current womens 400m pedigree is down to Phil Healy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Adeleke confirmed as back in for tomorrow night. Ireland v Netherlands round 2 coming up then…though the Dutch did finish third in the two horse race last time. And Bol still has to run the 400m hurdles final tonight, while our team can rest up now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    Bol certainly has experience of coming through from a mixed zone post win and then running a blinder the next day.

    It's exciting stuff for tomorrow. Klaver getting an absolute rest before it.

    Becker, Adeleke, Healy, Mawdsley.

    Goosebumps



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,592 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Just turned it on in time for the end of coverage 🙄

    Did I hear correctly that the 4x400 girls were the fastest qualifiers? Bloody hell!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    Yeah 5 qualified from the race, even 5th placed time would have won the other semi final. Almost all will be upgrading teams for the final though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Yes, fastest even without Adeleke, though only fair to point out that others were rested also and the Dutch rested two (and almost didn't qualify as a result).

    Biggest issue tomorrow might be Mawdsley's legs, five 400s in six days is a lot to ask of her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,312 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Dutch still favourites as Bol is unlikely to be tested tonight and they’re bringing in Klaver too. Blessed to qualify but can make 3 strong changes.

    The Polish will bring in Kaczmarek too.

    However if we get things right, we will win a medal and if we get a bit of luck, we can get gold



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    On the men's 4x400, that was a solid enough performance. Jack Raftery was disappointing on the opening leg. 46.6x just doesn't cut it at this level. He seems to have stagnated since 2022. Chris O'Donnell ran a great second leg to bring us back into a Q spot. It really wasn't fair to drop Sean Doggett into that cauldron. He's only 17/18 and clearly not ready for that level just yet. The big positive was 21-year old Callum Baird on the anchor leg. He's lowered his individual PB to 46.19 this season and just dropped a 45.14 anchor leg. That's a great time; he looks ready for mixed relay pool in Paris, possibly ahead of Raftery or Greene.

    Good performance from the women's team, just 0.5 seconds outside the NR without Adeleke. Sophie Becker ran a decent 51.6 opener. Phil Healy consolidated with a 51.3 second leg. Lauren Cadden did well to run a 52.1 third leg. Her recently set PB is 52.87. That's as much as she can deliver right now. She's still pretty young and this is her first season running 400s. I think she'll really start asserting herself next season. Mawdsley was a revelation yet again on the anchor leg. Another 49.7 leg is incredible. As others have said though, I'm really concerned about her workload. She's a warrior, but they are expecting too much from her. You can see in her face that she's tired and it clearly was to the detriment of her individual performance in the final. She may have to be selfish when Paris rolls around and say "no" to some relay legs if she is to have an outside shot at the Olympic final.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Do they give medals to the athletes who ran in the heats but don't run in the final?

    Next Man City manager: You lot may all be internationals and have won all the domestic honours there are to win under Pep. But as far as I'm concerned, the first thing you can do for me is to chuck all your medals and all your caps and all your pots and all your pans into the biggest **** dustbin you can find, because you've never won any of them fairly. You've done it all by bloody cheating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    Give me five minutes and I'll change my mind again but I think the races are only benefiting her. It's been mentioned that she's with the Dutch a lot in Pappendal (semi-related reasons for being there). And Bol absolutely races a lot.

    Without a doubt, there's going to be scheduling conflicts in Paris but another 400m at this stage will be a very good training run.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    And Dogget is there on merit. Check the ranking.

    Cillin Greene is minding himself which is a worry. Hopefully he's OK.

    As for Jack. I'll have to take a look at the outgoing runner to see Jack's split and its relevance. Mid 46 for an opening leg is good. Chris O'Donnell ran 46 low for his leg in the final soni wouldn't crucify anyone for mid 46



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    I know why she trains a lot in Pappendal. It’s clearly great for her, but we desperately need her at her best. Paris is where it counts. I just hope she isn’t being over-extended.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    I have checked the rankings. It’s clearly great experience for him that he’ll take a lot from it going forward. He was a boy amongst men out there.

    I respectfully disagree that a 46.6x opener is a good opening leg in a continental level championship, particularly from a relatively experienced athlete.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,592 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    Sorry man. Had to come back to this. Jack's pb is from 2023, so a stagnation since 2022 doesn't really make any sense. Can you explain that please?





  • Fair play for reading it, I thought it was a self indulgent ramble



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    No worries. He’s obviously a great athlete and achieved far more already than I ever did!

    Remember the mixed relay in Oregon and those great third legs he ran? I thought he’d be getting down to the mid-45s by now. I know progression isn’t linear and it’s still early season, so let’s see how it goes.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,681 ✭✭✭obi604


    It literally is a boy amongst men, Sean Doggett is only 17, he wont be 18 for another 6 months!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    I think it's more a case that Mawdsley will have to sacrifice her individual chances in Paris to help the team. Realistically she's not going to make the individual Olympic final anyway, but with Adeleke dropping in and out she will have a huge role to play in two other decent medal chances in the relays. We're going to need her to run both relay heats for us to have a chance. That way we can just bring Rhasidat in for the two finals without damaging her individual medal prospects.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,773 ✭✭✭P.Walnuts


    Is the evening session viewable tonight anywhere?

    RTE2 has the football on



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,025 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    Also looking for any channel that has it on this evening



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,475 ✭✭✭Ryath




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,025 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    Thanks very much. Disgraceful RTE don't have even have half decent coverage



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,197 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Why couldn't RTE put the athletics on the RTE News channel? They've put sporting events on there numerous times in the past. Their coverage has been dreadful throughout, but this takes the ₱1$$.

    Post edited by sligeach on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,332 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    money I’d say. Rte need to make savings. The public aren’t happy with their expenditure. This, I’d say, is what you call one of the downstream impacts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 817 ✭✭✭ergo


    Also, with the election counts coming in, there are probably more people interested in following that live than following athletics



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    Anyone know why the British 10,000 m runner Megan Keith has her name in massive letters on her vest? Totally different font from every other athlete.



  • Registered Users Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Jakey Rolling


    Possibly as she's European U23 champion, albeit at 5000m?

    100412.2526@compuserve.com



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