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€25k invested in prize bonds

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,783 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Very easy to take out but you need to leave any money paid in for a minimum of 90 days. Make the effort to sign up to the web service and you can do it all online. Probably easiest to start off by paying in some money at the Post Office first. The form you need to fill in can be downloaded and the PO will do everything for you there and then.

    Easy way online

    https://www.statesavings.ie/help-support/help-articles/how-do-i-cash-in-one-of-my-products-in-state-savin

    More effort by post

    https://www.statesavings.ie/help-support/help-articles/withdrawal-request-repayments

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    Positives are:

    • your capital is guaranteed by the Irish Government (apart from the impact of inflation) and you can get it back at any time after 90 days from the date the prize bonds are purchased
    • you could one one of the "larger" prizes (Currently these are 12x €500k, 52x €50k, 1040x €1k, 1040x €500 annually)
    • you have the excitement of checking your results every Friday, and even if you win nothing all you money is still there for next week's draw
    • Any wins are free of Irish Taxes (DIRT, income, CGT etc)

    Negatives are:

    €75 wins in year

    Chance of wins

    None

    21%

    1

    33%

    2

    26%

    3

    13%

    4 or more

    7%

    • Based on the current prize structure, the current size of the fund and the current nominal 1% prize fund rate, your €15k holding's chances of one or more €75 wins per annum are as per the above table. Obviously you could do better or worse than this
    • The current nominal prize rate at 1% is very low compared to the rates on offer for deposits and bonds generally, compared to where it was historically. You may be able to get a substantially better rate elsewhere, even allowing for tax etc
    • Your chances of a "large" win are very remote. There are approx 750,000,000 prize bonds in issue and 2,144 "large" prizes annually. You'd get better odds on Gemma O'Doherty being the Minister for Justice and Enoch Burke being the Minister for Education in the next Government

    If you do decide to proceed you should, as @The Continental Op suggests, register for an online State Savings account. It saves the hassle of having to deal directly with the State Savings and their copious forms and inconsistent and unreliable manual processes.

    Good luck should you decide to proceed.

    Post edited by Hibernicis on


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,987 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    how long does it take to receive post when you sign up for first batch in post office?



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,783 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Think mine was a full week maybe a bit longer but not 2 weeks.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users Posts: 655 ✭✭✭CorkFenian


    Great post thanks very much , I had thought my Dad who had passed away held prize bonds, is there a way to check this, it never really came up until i looked at it myself, do past winners expire etc much appreciated again, the Doherty\Enoch Burke analogy made me laugh out loud :)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,783 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    I did this in the UK for my dads premium bonds. You need a death cert and proof of your ID etc etc etc NS&I are a pain to deal with in the UK so I guess is won't be much easier here.

    Found this https://www.statesavings.ie/help-support/help-articles/initiate-deceased-case which should help.

    Post edited by The Continental Op on

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,783 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    As I got thanked when I asked about posting UK premium bond wins I'll carry on.

    Premium bonds are monthly draws.

    £150 on £50000 for June (May £300).

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    Glad you found the post useful.

    Regarding your father’s holding, if you read up the links on this page it will guide you through the process

    https://www.statesavings.ie/help-support/help-articles/bereavement-guide-support

    A couple of points to bear in mind.

    There are two different forms/procedures, one for prize bonds and one for all other state savings products. I suggest you complete both, on the off chance that in addition to the possibility of prize bonds your father/parents could have had a savings cert or two (these were sometimes given as wedding presents etc in the past)

    State Savings will conduct a search based on the info you give them. Based on the evidence I’ve seen their search capabilities are extremely poor, often yielding less than 50% of a persons holding. You can improve your chances by giving them the maximum possible amount of information, e.g. all variations of name and all addresses at which the person resided.

    See also this post that I wrote last year:



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,021 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Nothing for me today. The number of €75 prizes in the June draws is 9,124 down from 9,172 in May.

    The newest number to win on 03 May was BGK826079. Newest 07 June BGP773709. Sales of around €31 million.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,783 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Just checked Prize bonds nothing today on 5k

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭tuisginideach


    €75 today. Saw article in paper during the week that more PBs are being cashed in these days than are being bought.

    Post edited by tuisginideach on


  • Registered Users Posts: 687 ✭✭✭POBox19


    Yes, that's right. As a consequence the number of prizes awarded has been dropping since last June.



  • Registered Users Posts: 733 ✭✭✭Sligo Quay


    I found it encouraging to see an AH048993 from Leitrim won the 50k today, it's a long time since an old bond won top prize, I've 13 AH bonds myself, the series AH was between July 1986 and the spring of 1987, 3 other AH bonds won €75 euro AH415419 won €75 euro very close to one of my AH bonds, mine is AH4153—, literally very close but not close enough.

    2 wins for the Greek bonds €75.

    Nothing for yours truly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 825 ✭✭✭pbwinner


    Winnings on 7th June 2024: €0

    Last win 7th July 2023: €50

    Total winnings on €25k from Feb 2011 to date: €3300

    2011: €75 x 4 = €300

    2012: €75 x 6 = €450

    2013: €50 x 12 = €600

    2014: €50 x 9 = €450

    2015: €50 x 5 = €250

    2016: €50 x 5 = €250

    2017: €50 x 4 = €200

    2018: €50 x 2 = €100

    2019: €50 x 6 = €300

    2020: €50 x 5 = €250

    2021: €50 x 1 = €50

    2022: €50 x 1 = €50

    2023: €50 x 1 = €50

    2024: €0 x 0 = €0



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    Nothing for me today



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,125 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    Not surprised, I used to average about €50 x 2 a month but winnings have now completely dried up, feel like cashing it all in and maybe getting a new car or something.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,987 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    received today, 1 day short of 2 weeks

    tried to register online now to buy more but it still won't allow me

    got no State savings number with the bonds

    it has a prize bond customer number but that won't work

    pps number doesn't work either

    can anyone who has done this recently shed any light on what else might be needed?



  • Registered Users Posts: 687 ✭✭✭POBox19


    @Seve OB

    You'll need to send this form along with the evidence of identity to State Savings to get your SSCN. Did someone mention that it takes a while? There is a good post at #9028 from @Hibernicis explaining the process.

    https://www.statesavings.ie/media/pdf/online-purchases-form.pdf



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,783 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Did you get your bonds? SSCN is on the bottom of them.

    You also get at least two letters telling you what you SSCN is if you sign up in the PO including a paper card with the number on. Just checked and one of my letters with the SSCN came a month after the first letter which included the paper card with the SSCN on it.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,987 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    thought that all I needed to do was buy them in a post office. they don't make this simple!

    I received a single letter

    "We refer to your recent purchase of Prize Bonds

    This Prize Bond certificate is issued in accordance ……."

    Goes on to list numbers and values in a box

    I presume that is the actual bonds

    there is no SSCN number on the bottom

    I'll wait to see if I get another letter before filling any more forms in



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,783 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    They fairly slow so I wouldn't be worrying. Any forms you fill in will just take another couple of weeks to get processed so I'd wait.

    In that box you refer to on all my certificates the last line states State Savings Customer Number:

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    They stopped printing the SSCN on the Prize Bond Certificates at the end of 2022. It isn't appearing on any bond I received in 2023 or 2024. No idea why they chose to do this.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,783 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Its on all my bonds bought since 2022. Most of mine were bought June - December 2023.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭Hibernicis


    @Seve OB

    You could call them on 0818 205060 / 01 7057200, quote your PB numbers and ask them for you SSCN. Failing that you should complete the form that @POBox19 linked to in post #9941



  • Registered Users Posts: 561 ✭✭✭jjmcclure


    My experience was pretty seamless. Signed up in the post office on Friday 31st and provided a draft. Bonds issued on the 6th (no win on the 7th) and a letter arrived on Monday 10th with instructions, my SSCN and a PIN to log into the website. All sorted.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,066 ✭✭✭tuisginideach


    €75. Four X €75 wins since late April from the same batch!



  • Registered Users Posts: 825 ✭✭✭pbwinner


    Winnings on 14th June 2024: €0

    Last win 7th July 2023: €50

    Total winnings on €25k from Feb 2011 to date: €3300

    2011: €75 x 4 = €300

    2012: €75 x 6 = €450

    2013: €50 x 12 = €600

    2014: €50 x 9 = €450

    2015: €50 x 5 = €250

    2016: €50 x 5 = €250

    2017: €50 x 4 = €200

    2018: €50 x 2 = €100

    2019: €50 x 6 = €300

    2020: €50 x 5 = €250

    2021: €50 x 1 = €50

    2022: €50 x 1 = €50

    2023: €50 x 1 = €50

    2024: €0 x 0 = €0



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,783 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Someones luck is only going to change if they set up a new user account here named pbloser24

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,783 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    Just been out to check mine - no mobile coverage at home so need to take an expectational trip down the road to get a signal.

    Nothing on 5k (last win November €50).

    Wake me up when it's all over.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 561 ✭✭✭jjmcclure


    Invested on 6th May 2024.

    7th May - No win

    14th May - €75



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