General Irish politics discussion thread

Are you referring to the two who had a go at their Green party coalition colleagues, Lisa Chamber and Regina Doherty? It's a competition between the two as to which is, the Liz Truss of Irish politics.

The party with the biggest questions to answer is Sinn Fein, of that there is no doubt.

The Greens have outperformed expectations. Not so long ago, the "experts" on here were predicting zero Green seats after the general election. They look certain to hold three or four, that maybe enough to go back into government, on the back of the improved performances of FF and FG. If you look at the government parties, they had nearly 50% between them, which would be enough to win another term. Furthermore, the influence the Greens have had on this government has been huge, and a lot of that progress can't be reversed.

For Sinn Fein, it is looking like another five years in the wilderness with a distinct lack of talent in the ranks. Already, the likes of Labour and the SDs appear to have recruited some excellent councillors and are ready to challenge SF more closely.

Dark days ahead for Sinn Fein unless they can come up with some bright ideas that convince the electorate.

They far exceeded your expectations for them - you saw them being wiped out. It was a great performance by your expectations.

Now you are desperate for some internal disruption to cause trouble for the coalition. Dream on.

As for Sinn Fein, they have faced up to nothing, all their spokespersons talking about "change" again. Change was the issue of the 2020 election, things have moved on, we have seen Brexit, we have seen Covid, the issue in the next election will be who will you trust to manage the country, "change" as a mantra is dead in the water, but Sinn Fein are still flogging that dead duck. Spinning that they have faced up to it being a bad day for them is foolish at best.

This has begged for since I first heard it, I feel I must be missing something but can't see what.

Local FG cllr signed to revoke the anti-eviction order saying they were doing it as, not signing it would make more not fewer ppl homeless.

Now we are at an all-time high in homelessness, it seems not to have worked, but I can't see what the logic was in saying it at all is?

you would imagine SF best tactic over these days is to own the mess of an election and tell their supporters and general public that they wil spend some time navel gazing and rooting through the dbris and come out stronger etc etc. instead Boylan got peevish and kept repeating that they had got more seats than last time. they look and sound for all intents and purposes like an aged sportsperson thats haggered and worn out, same faces , same aul passive agrression at being called out. they sund tired, id say pearse and mary lou will get hard to resurrect themselves for GE. MLMD i think will start looking for the exit package after GE. They also seem to be stuck now for a cause to fight against, the watery reposnse to a united ireland by the general public in the south dosent help them either, Brexit done, stormont back and a good chance housing begins to flow more as well now, also FG going in hard on immigration with simon harris is taking that thunder off them even though they werent sure what way their wind was blowing on that. Next government FG/FF/GR/INds , i predict a mid october election maybe 3rd friday. it gives 3 weeks of usually decent weather in early to mid october and still bright til 7-7:30pm. any later then id leave til mid march

How is the greens losing seat defying expectations?

If their expectation is self destruction they could very well do a 2011 again.

And losing their MEPs too.

I don't see it playing out that way.

I think it's FG who's been leading to the charge to meet the far rights demands with border checks and repeated tent removals etc… McEntee is as vacuous and craven to play up security for votes as an English Tory.

Boylan was denying reality even more than some of the supporters on here.

This election was a disaster for Sinn Fein, full stop, end of story. People no longer believe in MLMD when she says "change". "Change to what?" is the question that people are asking, and no more than the followers on here, MLMD hasn't got a clue.

The posters on here who were posting nonsense a few weeks ago that the Greens would be wiped out are not trying to back down and back away from their previous comments by saying that the election performance raises questions about Eamon Ryan. Would you get out of here!!!

Party outperforms your expectations = Questions to be asked about the leader.

Party performs way way below your trumpeting of them = No questions about the leader.

There is no better way to make a fool of yourself than the way that the SF supporters are behaving on here.

Interesting one. Could do very well. As he says though it would depend who else went forward.

Any particular reason for that Quin Dub.
He has been consistently electable for quite some time.

Just thinking of the Zoom call with his pants down, how would that go down internationally for a President?

Independent Ireland, whilst it's rural based, would be quite right wing, esp the views of the leader Michael Collins;

https://www.hotpress.com/opinion/independent-ireland-party-leader-michael-collins-23018312

Agreed

Think he has been diagnosed with adhd in his adult life and it's probably part of his personality