The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

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They'll have Mary Lou linked to Mountbatten shortly.

Zero.

A liar? You party loyalists really take things to the max.

It was Adams who said it. She was asked about it. Granted, she backed it up. She referred to him as a good republican. I've more things of interest to me than nit picking and name calling, trolling for a gotcha moment. You fill your boots.

aw now , you were just caught in a lie , very clearly and very easily,

read the links

mlm said it too ,

Sinn Féin's Deputy Leader says she still regards Thomas ‘Slab’ Murphy as a good Republican, praising his support for the peace process.

not only trying to re write history but boards threads too , o you shinnerbots are such rascals 😜😜😜

but she said it too i even gave you the quote , come on keep up

lol . surely its time for shinnerbots to upgrade the programming ? what with the election and all . or is the American and Russian money drying up ?

call them out once and they go straight to ff fg shill . can we not just detest sf for what it is ?

Seems that way Brendan. Coming dead last in Clontarf for example. Now it’s not all leafy Clontarf and Howth Road Raheny down there - lots of Fairview, Artane, even part of Coolock.

I think SF ran too many. They'll split their vote in some councils and get nothing

Seemingly a few more tiktok from the permanently outraged Pearse and everything will be good

SF are incompetent, have always been incompetent and nothing going to change that for a long time

Lets just hope their little online group of clowns might shut up for a few months so it will be safe to use the internet

Nope, it wasn't just Adams, it was MLMD too.

What do you think about the election results?

Nobody is swallowing the nonsense that the government lost the local elections, why are all the Shinners so keen to put it out there?

The reason the Sinn Fein vote was down from the general election, and very far down, is because the party as a whole and the leader in particular have a huge credibility problem. Nobody believes that they will bring change because they don't have a clue what to do to change and don't have a single credible policy on any issue. Pretending that they didn't lose badly, as you and Lynn Boylan are intent on doing, only adds to the credibility problem.

You are not responding to what I posted, but what you believe I meant.

You are wrong. I never said they lost. I said FF/FG and Greens lost seats, which they did. The nonsense here is selling FF/FG/Green losing seats as a win. Although they did better than expected I think.

Every other party gained seats.

You are wrong. I never said they didn't do badly. They did very poorly, but did gain more seats. The writing was on the wall the last several weeks. I wasn't expecting them to crush it. I was hoping FF/FG would lose more seats than they did.

The celebration is FF/FG not doing as bad as expected and SF not doing as well as they might have hoped, which rings a little hollow.

Yes, SF need to work on their brand if they want to be the party to hoover up all the votes leaving FF/FG and the Greens.

But all the votes aren't leaving FF, FG and the Greens, they are still getting around 50% of the votes, enough for an overall majority next time out.

Furthermore, the big take out from this election is that FF and FG voters are transferring to each other for the first time in 100 years. That only increases the chances of the government returning. MLMD should start looking to 2030, and in the meantime shut up talking about a united Ireland and other far-fetched dreams like the 300k houses.

I wonder which votes SF lost the most of -

Was it the "New SF vote" from the last GE who decided there was no "change"?

OR

Was the "Traditional SF vote" from the last GE who decided there was too much "change"?

Mea cupla on your part.

They didn't lose votes, they gained votes. It was only the government parties who lost votes.

They dropped sharply in the polls. The support they seemed to have in the polls certainly didn't move to the anti-immigrant patriots nua,

I realise that prima facie but on the overall scheme of things the 1st preference votes and overall national trends so and so forth are well down as stated by SF themselves. Why is there soul searching in SF and statements such as we "we need clearer policies" and "we will listen to the electorate" etc etc if it is such a success.

The only SF rep I heard put a brave face on things was Lynn Boylan who used your spin. That SF are up but did not do as well as hoped. But the reality is that is simplistic narrative as you no doubt are well aware.

SF basically have to back a horse now instead of trying to sit between two stools. It is fascinating to watch. But how do SF become a top of the class on the left, while also getting votes from the middle classes but at the same time not alienating traditional SF, and the SF cohort in NI? It is almost an impossible balancing act.

SF's only other alternative is to jettison NI SF and make a clean break from that NI jingoistic Republican mindset and usual tried phrases etc. But that is not going to happen as long as that cohort are still breathing.

But SF do have some advantages they can get away with a lot of stuff that would sink most other democratic parties. I think it is coming to the stage where the disadvantages are outweighing the advantages.