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Athletics 2024 (Mod note #869)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Adeleke is world class.....she is going to do amazing things in the next few years....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭Goodigal


    Aren't they just an amazing set of athletes! Super proud. Love the interviews 👏



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭Xander10


    Talented and a very likeable bunch.

    Proud evening



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,332 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    hopefully they make a packet off this. Marketable doesn’t cover it.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,278 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    The Slovakian runner absolutely stunned the French, they seemed locked in for second and third.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭Grassy Knoll


    great stuff from smashing bunch. Also great to be cheering on an Irish team in a final of a big sporting event, doesn’t happen enough!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,159 ✭✭✭DellyBelly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,804 ✭✭✭irelandrover


    Ireland win a silver medal and the first thing you do is point out who was the weakest.

    Edit. Sorry, second thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,184 ✭✭✭Xander10


    The negative vibe

    A night to celebrate only.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭Musicrules


    Amazing athletes and superb role models. Exactly what we need when we're trying to promote sport amongst our young people. They're all pushing eachother on and others are trying harder to try to make this team. Obviously it's going to be much harder in the Olympics but having our best ever European championships has been so uplifting. And they all seem so sound!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,159 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Didn't mean to come across as negative...she did well considering her illness etc but it was the reason they didn't win gold if you are being honesr



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    Great effort yet again. You could pick holes in a couple of the runs alright but no need, especially as it didn't matter in terms of the outcome, the Dutch were always going to win once they sneaked through their semi into the final. Bol was only jogging in relative terms on that last leg.

    Mawdsley again was the relay star, a lot of pressure on her given how bunched everyone was going into the last 400, she held off the field brilliantly.

    An olympic bronze medal will be tough, but not impossible for this team. They'll have to beat everyone from tonight again, as well as the Brits. They will need to qualify for the final without Adeleke and will probably need another national record in the final to do it, but they've definitely got a sniff of a chance.



  • Registered Users Posts: 618 ✭✭✭breffni bogballer


    Sorry if answered already,but how have Ireland 5 in this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,332 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    there weren’t any heats and I guess we have good depth who made the qualifying time this year.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,539 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Don't know too much about Gidey but didn't expect him to be in the mix here. Imagine if we snuck a medal here 👀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,716 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Any Irish in this 10000?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    Brian Fay did alright in fairness. Such a tactical race. Thought the Brit had it if I'm being honest but he absolutely faded



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    Efrem Gidey too. Strong representation 💪



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,278 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Gidey finished in 12th. Others in 20, 21, 22, 24.

    Felt sorry for the Swede who go caught at the end. Just over half a second between the medalists.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 795 ✭✭✭marathon2022


    17 in the 1500m , will be mayhem



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    Poor Greg kept calling the second Dutch runner, Klaver. He's really fallen off since the mixed relay



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,540 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Hide behind Ingebritsen, get the tow, great tactic!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    DId Greg also say that Jakob won last two Worlds.

    If Gourlay wins this, Jakob will pack it in



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,539 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Not sure what Coscoran's tactics were for that race..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27


    Expected an absolute procession and a last lap burn up. Didn't happen. No harm, no foul



  • Registered Users Posts: 675 ✭✭✭supernova5


    Ingebrigsten is just another level



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    Yeah. An odd one. His time wasn’t awful. 3.34. He just never got into the race at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭DangerMouse27




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,475 ✭✭✭Ryath


    Still on Player

    https://www.rte.ie/player/onnow/82100776270

    Armand Duplantis going for Pole Vault world record 6.25!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,654 ✭✭✭✭fits




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    Great assessment.

    GB will be in the mix in the Olympics for sure. There’s also Jamaica and Canada usually has a decent squad. Bronze medal is a possibility though.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,539 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,332 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    what do athletics aficionados think will be the story coming out of these entire games. Ireland would be one of the stories but what would be the biggest ones?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,191 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Medal presentation women's 4x4 on RTE player right now!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,926 ✭✭✭deisedude


    When you consider how the other girls are only coming to their peaks nows and Adeleke is only 21. She is way ahead of schedule in her development



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    It really is how competitive European Championships are; the high standards across the board. Some of the events / finals are just about on par with what we will see in Paris in August.


    Biggest stories for me:

    Jakob Ingebritsen is over his injury. The Olympic double is on.
    Alexander Doom is a legitimate threat for Olympic 400m gold. Natalia Kaczmarek will be very close to or on the podium in the 400m, which of course means that Rhasidat Adeleke has a great shot at bagging a medal in Paris.
    Marcell Jacobs is coming back into form, but I can’t see him repeating his heroics in Tokyo.
    Femke Bol is a generational talent but she will not beat Sydney McLaughlin in Paris.

    Post edited by Hamachi on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,191 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Great to see the subs getting their medals on the podium with their teammates.



  • Registered Users Posts: 238 ✭✭patob


    Incredible games for the Irish no doubt, a huge boost to the profile of track and field. Otherwise the Italians had a super games and medal haul, Tamberi put on some show last night in the High Jump, what a showman, and the Battocletti double was hugely impressive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ahnowbrowncow


    And without her they wouldn't have got a silver medal. It's about perspective.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    A top 10 finish on the medal table. Norway the only country with a similar population to place higher. Great to see the progress and it feels like the team has really captured the wider public interest now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,191 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Fiona May presenting her own daughter with the mascot during the long jump ceremony. 🥹



  • Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭RoscommonHero


    This is incorrect.

    Adeleke was the fastest of the Irish girls. By the way Mawdsley didn't just live with Bol on the last leg, she ran more than half a second faster than her. Bol looked tired to me, but Mawdsley I'm sure was knackered aswell. The deciding factor could have been the fact that all but one of our ladies ran in the semi-final.

    To be hyper-critical I would say that Becker went out too quickly and died late on, she ran a 52 second split and was sixth on the first leg despite being second after 300 metres. She ran about half a second slower than she did in the semi-final. As did Healy who again made the mistake of going out too fast and dying in the last 75 metres, however as a frontrunner it's harder to judge pace so that's fair enough.

    Mawdsley was gutsy as usual on the last leg. I think we would have won gold if Becker and Healy ran similar times to the semi-final as I think even Bol was tired on the Dutch last leg, perhaps from the 400m hurdles exploits. I think the gold was there for us but it's still an amazing achievement, and they have done incredibly well. I just think they can go even a second faster at their very very best.



  • Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭RoscommonHero


    I don't think we will qualify for an Olympic final without Adeleke, although it could depend on how competitive our heat is. We might get a handy draw but I doubt it. I think the best case scenario is we run 3:24 or just under without Adeleke and it may well not be enough to qualify at the olympics.

    In 2021 olympics the slowest time to qualify for the 4 x 400 metres final was 3:24:08, our semi-final qualification in this tournament was 3:24.81 and that was with all four of them running at their peak (Becker, Healy and Mawdsley all ran slower in the final)

    By the way, even if we do qualify for the final, we will need to run at least 3:21 to medal, we just ran a national record of 3:22:71

    If we qualify, if all four ladies have trained well, are not too tired and really put in an amazing performance and run their best race, I think we could do 3:21.5 if all the stars align on the day for us, that might or might not be enough for bronze, but that's only if all four of them absolutely smash it.

    That's how I see it, so I don't think we should be heaping pressure on them ahead of the Olympics and expecting medals, but I bet our media will do just that. It will be an absolutely phenomenal performance to medal at an Olympics and I think the chances are against qualifying without Adeleke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    I think the Dutch would've won regardless.

    I think Bol was taking it easy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,924 ✭✭✭orangerhyme


    Adeleke's a ridiculous talent.

    We were coming 4th at that start of her leg and 1st by the end.

    She knocks about 2 seconds off our time.

    We'd win nothing without her.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭geotrig


    yeah think the Dutch had it no matter what unless a batten drop or some disaster , Klaver ran a very good 1st leg compared to the mixed 2nd leg in the mixed4x4 which set them up really well overall, good team management there from them.

    I do agree that I thought bol looked a bit tired but had enough in the bag to win regardless if she was pushed. Mawdsley also looked a bit tired but not as much the rest behind her set off too hard i think so where nearly all going to run out of steam great to get another medal and delighted for them, really enjoyed watching these games when i could get the rte player working.Some good medaling and contests by countries that Dont always do well.

    It'll be very tough for either the mixed or w 4x4 to get to a final in olympics but **** me theres hope and gives us something to look forward too and cheer !

    Post edited by geotrig on


  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭hurdles1


    Great night for Irish athletics for the team to medal, but I think Roscommonhero gives a fairly accurate assement of the relay over the last week and going forward.

    It's amazing how many people are now experts on split times formations etc..media now bigging it up

    As a few have said here the reality is if sharlene didn't run in the semi no final or medal.. we won't see Rhasidat competing in any mixed relay again that's on before her main event and will only come in for a final in the women's 4x4 if they qualify without her and possibly sharlene also.. Nike are paying Rhasidat the big dollars now andcoach flo will have to follow orders.

    Relay medals are great ,and as michael Johnson said a few years back this mixed relay event was a bit of a novelty circus event. Its all about the individual event going forward for Rhasidat.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,859 ✭✭✭aero2k


    What a week of athletics! Anyone who remembers me from the distant past will know that I know noothing about track running in general, and sprinting in particular, but that doesn't prevent me appreciating wonderful performances. What struck me most was the composure. Since I watched Eamon Coghlan come fourth in Montreal, through Sonia getting forth in Barcelona, I've seen many Irish competitors in great positions, only to falter under the weight of expectation or perhaps because they were intimidated by the quality of the competition. We had 4 realistic medal chances and we got all four, in fact we probably outperformed in the womens 4 x 400. Much has been made of Adeleke, and she's an extraordinary talent, but Mawdsley is a terrific competitor. Twice she was handed the batten in a medal position, twice she delivered against world class opposition. Barr didn't crumble when overtaken by Doom, who went on to set a record in the individual, and he prevented a gap opening at a crucial moment. Adeleke improved her pacing dramatically from her last outing at this level. And Sophie Becker and Phil Healy have shown tremenduous persistence to get to the start line last night. In her race, Mageen waited for the gap to appear rather than burning fuel going the long way round.

    For the experts on here, what are your thoughts regarding Rashidat? I have a feeling she can go much faster, while acknowledging that she'll have to do exactly that if she is to medal in Paris.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,716 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Rashede likely doesn't go 'much faster' come late July-August. Be amazing if she went sub 49. I reckon gold has to go sub 49 in Paris. Her 49.07 is her PB, and is 4th fastest 2024 time for 400 meters



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