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EU Elections 2024 - Results

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    #1202
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,404 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122254615#Comment_122254615

    Is this not what we're doing now in the elections? Deciding who we want to represent Ireland's interests?😂



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    #1203
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,871 ✭✭✭✭josip


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122254455#Comment_122254455

    If we look at Sean Kelly's transfers we see that Kelleher picked up almost as many as Mullins so the civil war hatchet looks well buried and both sets of voters are being practical government partners. This is important for Ni Mhurcu because at least a quarter of Mullins' 45000 votes will would go to Kelly where they cannot rest. How many of those go to Ni Mhurcu depends somewhat on whether Kelleher reaches the quota on the back of Mullins' elimination.

    Whatever happens, I think Ni Mhurcu needs to close the gap to Wallace to 3000 or less before O'Sullivan's elimination. O'Sullivan is from Tramore, so Wallace might pick up some of that 'local' vote.



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    #1204
    Raoul Duke III
    Registered Users Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Raoul Duke III


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122254778#Comment_122254778

    'Ireland's interests' is a fairly complex concept, that encompasses many levels and domains. No one person or party can claim to represent 'Ireland's interests' in totality.



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    #1205
    Patser
    Registered Users Posts: 8,025 ✭✭✭Patser


    Simple - Ni Murchu needs 6,000 more votes from the on paper 106,000 possibly available tranfers from 2 other candidates that are coalition partners with her party, than Wallace.

    We seen Cuffe give O'Riordain 16,000 on Sunday, but I've a feeling this will be a lot closer. But 3,000 more than Wallace off each is all she needs.



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    #1206
    Gregor Samsa
    Registered Users Posts: 9,007 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122254225#Comment_122254225

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    #1207
    keeponhurling
    Registered Users Posts: 5,262 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Update from MNW

    Gildernew has gone ahead of Mullooly due to the SF transfers, but only just.

    Neck and neck between those two, all comes down to transfers of Chambers and Toibin. Gildernew is only 1,6k votes ahead, with a possible 117k of transfers to come.

    Ming, Carberry, Walsh and Cowen look to be home and dry.



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    #1208
    keeponhurling
    Registered Users Posts: 5,262 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122254816#Comment_122254816

    Gonna be close, I'd imagine the odds are now slightly in Ni Mhurchu's favour.



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    #1209
    johnny_ultimate
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,401 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Gildernew probably wanted to be an extra couple of thousands of votes ahead after those SF transfers. Seems very likely Mullooly will benefit more from Toibin votes than she will, so I'd say Mullooly is the clear favourite to take it at this stage.



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    #1210
    Macy0161
    Registered Users Posts: 9,384 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122254464#Comment_122254464

    The other side of the argument is you get to policy based candidates off the list, rather than based on likability/ how many funerals they turn up to.



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    #1211
    wassie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭wassie


    Wow. Going to close in the South!!! Round 18 count completed.

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    Kelleher has been elected with a quota.



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    #1212
    Steviemak7
    Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭Steviemak7


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122255434#Comment_122255434

    That's Mick gone. Grace will transfer to Cynthia. Billy's surplus will go to Cynthia too.



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    #1213
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,871 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Only 1200 behind, surely that 5th seat will go to Ni Mhurcu?



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    #1214
    wassie
    Registered Users Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭wassie


    Why would we want to get rid of this voting system!

    Death by a 1000 cuts for the candidates!



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    #1215
    Francie Barrett
    Registered Users Posts: 16,565 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Wallace is done, he's not getting the transfers

    Overall, these results are very positive for Ireland.

    Daly and Wallace removed from embarrassing us on the world stage. The two Green Party candidates no longer demanding that we destroy our living standards for dubious reasons.

    Hopefully the four people that take their place can reverse and repair some of the damage they've caused in the last 5 years.



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    #1216
    gral6
    Registered Users Posts: 713 ✭✭✭gral6


    Three pretty women will send Wallace into obscurity! I would not wish better myself!



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    #1217
    josip
    Registered Users Posts: 13,871 ✭✭✭✭josip


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122255575#Comment_122255575

    I wouldn't be surprised to see him run in the next GE. It looks like he still has a lot of supporters in Wexford.



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    #1218
    AllForIt
    Registered Users Posts: 8,385 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    Not sure constituencies are fair because they can favour candidates.

    So say there was only one, the whole country, I bet proportionally Brid Smith and AOR would get a much lower percentage of the vote and Nial Boylan would have gotten more, for example. So I'm saying the progressive far left types wouldn't do as well nationally.

    They are not representing their constituency in Europe anyway in any real sense as they are supposed to be representing the whole country.

    So if you want to speed thing up I think we should ditch half the candidates and everyone has the same ballot paper. It would be more fair and I would have loved to have put Brid Smith below Justin Barret just for fun.



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    #1219
    Patser
    Registered Users Posts: 8,025 ✭✭✭Patser


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122255453#Comment_122255453

    Yeah, you'd have to think that GP voters won't go for a builder. Ni Murchu only needed 3k off the last 2, got almost 5k from 1st set.



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    #1220
    Patser
    Registered Users Posts: 8,025 ✭✭✭Patser


    Actually Kelleher has 5k surplus now to be redistributed. Ni Murchu outscored Wallace 3 to 1, on initial distribution so could pick up the 1,200 needed now although some will go to O'Sullivan as well



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    #1221
    Steviemak7
    Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭Steviemak7


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122255591#Comment_122255591

    She'll be ahead of Mick when Kelleher has his 5k surplus distributed. So Mick will need more transfers from O'Sullivan than Ni Mhurchu gets. That will never happen. Green voters are not even going to put a number next to Mick.



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    #1222
    Podge_irl
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,547 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122254464#Comment_122254464

    Personally I think a list system for Europe, where having an individual representative is not really important, is absolutely fine. Though I have no particular problem with our system either.



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    #1223
    yagan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭yagan


    Remind me, is Kelleher's surplus counted now?



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    #1224
    muzakfan
    Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭muzakfan


    Irish people are strange creatures imho. While personally I'm happy to see the looney left candidates eliminated a lot of the candidates put forward by the right, if not actual criminals, you certainly wouldn't leave your partner, child or pet alone in a room with them.

    But the strange part is that for the most part we seem to be ok with how things are headed? Tent city, housing crisis etc. At least by support of the same parties again that's the message we're sending.



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    #1225
    Patser
    Registered Users Posts: 8,025 ✭✭✭Patser


    Yeah, if you look at Ni Murchu, O'Sullivan and Wallace transfers from Mullins, they are nearly 3:2:1 in ballance- so roughly 2,700, 1,800, 900 each from Kellehers 5,300. That'll put Ni Murchu ahead



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    #1226
    Steviemak7
    Registered Users Posts: 144 ✭✭Steviemak7


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122255630#Comment_122255630

    Yes, all votes are used. Surpluses are redistributed



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    #1227
    wazzzledazzle
    Registered Users Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122255637#Comment_122255637

    Ultimately, if you peel it right back, most people couldn't care less about a few tents on the canal. Most people(who are home owners) don't care about the housing crisis. Let's call a spade a spade.

    Unemployment has never been as low, we are a nation who likes to give out regardless. If it's not the weather, it's a few tents, if it's not tents, it would be something else

    The boom just got boomier babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy



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    #1228
    yagan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭yagan


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122255643#Comment_122255643

    Grand, can't that surplus helping Putin's bitch much.



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    #1229
    artanevilla
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122255637#Comment_122255637

    Presumably it's because the alternative don't offer an actual alternative.



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    #1230
    bren2001
    Registered Users Posts: 6,514 ✭✭✭bren2001


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122255643#Comment_122255643

    Only the votes that brought him over the quota are considered i.e. those from the last count. I assume thats what you mean but it could be interpreted that they examine all 100k+ ballots.



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    #1231
    yagan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭yagan


    My wife asked me a few weeks ago who were Independent Ireland, I sent a link about Michael Collins wanting to legalise prostitution. Her first words were "f*ckin Gammon". We had lived a few years in Brexit Britain were well used to that letchy type politics.

    Can't see them lasting is that's their version of being enlightened, taking the criminal offence out of sexual exploitation.



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