Time for a zero refugee policy? - *Read OP for mod warnings and threadbans - updated 11/5/24*

Admit what?

I didn’t take anything out of context - I took your points on the refugee crisis and applied them to Ireland? And pointed out that in Ireland’s case we are totally at odds with what is being observed in general?

I don’t understand what your issue is.

Maybe that’s because Mullooly distanced himself from comments made by his party colleagues during the campaign and insisted that he does not believe Ireland is full. He is also quoted as saying…

“I support the right of those fleeing conflict and oppression to seek asylum here but feel our present system is not fit for purpose“

So he he wants the process speeded up, who doesn’t?

System shouldn't be sped up, it should be radically overhauled. Detention centre's, proper and thorough back ground checks and deportations or further dentention if they don't comply.

Will you ?

EU law in place for free trade between members. Ireland ignore it daily and imposes VRT (a taffif) on cars brought in from the EU.

I don't expect much, but having two centrist politicians in office will be an improvement on the Greens and Wallace/Daly. It certainly won't make things any worse.

Fine weather for camping but this is going to be a disaster come winter.

I have a question about Indian and Bangladeshi AS.

South Korea, Singapore, etc. have very low fertility rates.

India and Bangladesh are closer to SK than they are to Ireland.

There are no direct flights from Ireland to India, AFAIK.

Why do the Indians travel all the way to a small island off the coast of Europe?

Why don't they claim asylum in a closer country, e.g. Malaysia, Singapore, South Korea?

Why do the Indians pass by loads of other countries, and then claim asylum in Ireland?

But I thought they were all living in houses and that's why we've a housing crisis?

I could be wrong but I doubt there's any Indian or Bangladeshi IPAs on the thread to answer your question.

You could try going out and meeting some?

They're just people like me and you after all.

You'd get an interesting new perspective on the world, and you might even make a new friend.

Doesn't look that tough tbf.

I'm considered an open border lefty and I've been saying community service would be a great idea. Plus the guys in the video are quite positive and joking about it.

Half their payments are still in cash too.

Not in mine, but plenty of room in south Dublin

Isn't it ironic the name the brand of these tents is called *Trespass* 🤣

Obviously immigration adds to the demand for housing. There is no debate about that. People who say the opposite are deluded, or they want to ignore the truth.

My question is not so much about legal immigration by Indians (nurses, ICT, etc.), but Indians making asylum claims here.

"Indians making asylum claims here."

It's very rare for Indians to seek asylum in Ireland or elsewhere. I think you may be confusing them with Pakistanis??

For the record, the chief claimants in Ireland at this time in order of their numbers, are Nigeria, Algeria, Afghanistan, Georgia and Somalia.

One of the things I find very worrying is that asylum seekers and refugees can exchange their driving licences for an Irish one. The idea that people who don't even know the rules of the road in Ireland, have never driven on the left side and come from countries with appalling road safety records, are simply allowed to drive here is sheer madness. But of course making them take mandatory driver education course and sit an Irish driving test would cost even more tax payers' money.

Another poster was saying the other day that Irish people needed to be educated regarding immigration. If you want a good source of reliable information regarding the asylum procedure, this report has everything you need, published in December 2023 so fairly up to date. It's a long read but worth it if you are concerned about what's happening.

There is a very good table on page 13 that gives an excellent overview of the asylum application process.

On page 25 there is a breakdown of the infamous White Paper proposal detailing the two phase accommodation mooted by O'Gorman.

As you can see, in phase two, that own door accommodation was to include private tenancies. Approved housing bodies are also mentioned. This is rather vague. Does it include social housing? Either way, one can see that if this model were to proceed, it would no doubt result in inequalities between Irish citizens (be they ethnically Irish or otherwise Irish) and people with no permanent right to remain in the country. Housing that could and should be available to Irish citizens would be offered to asylum seekers.

https://data.oireachtas.ie/ie/oireachtas/libraryResearch/2023/2023-12-11_l-rs-note-refugees-in-ireland-the-eu-and-worldwide-refugees-in-ireland_en.pdf