Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread XII (The Byrne Supremacy)

Totally agree…

This is how stupid the whole thing is…

If Frawley was lent to Connaght 6 years ago for 2 years, Frawley could be first line starter and leading a team in competive rather than dominative pack. that means he has to bring the ball to the line and attack, no sitting in the pocket and rely on your pack winning you the front foot.

Frawley would be a nailed on No. 10 for Leinster, playing week in week out. Leinster would have two more European Cups and probably won today as well…

It wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference at the time he left… Frawley has been played at 15, 12 and a bit of 10… Never a settled 10 for a number of games

Did Leinster leanr this and become smarter?

Hell no…

Sam Predergast was convinced to stay at Leinster for next season because Leinster feel they might use him. Sam Prendergast isn't big enough physically to play in a European Cup final, think sensibly, he has massive potential but he needs to mature... Crowley only beat Dragons in his first 10 months and then played Ulster and needed Ben Healy to come on to win the game. It takes patience and a lot of mintes on the field to mature a outhalf.

Connacht misfortune meant they were going to be giving away minutes next season to any out-half worth their salt.

Leinster instead of taking the opportunity are now putting themselves in a bind. They are going to have a laoves and fishes problem.

Here is the question for Leo:

Leinster reaching both finals means you have 2250 mins of time next season.
Could tell us him any mins at 10 each out half he expects to be giving each player?
Just want to know everyone expects to get…How many is he getting this season and who is loosing out?

For reference Last Season minutes at 10:

Harry 800
Ross 745

Sam 466 (160 min 22/23)
Frawley 200 ish
Charlie 14 (92min 22/23)

So no injuries, how much time does he expect each player to get… Be realistic.

If he was saying to Prendergast is getting more minutes (but isn't big enough for big European games), who is he robbing off..

That'll soften Donnacha's cough

That's exactly what we do need. Someone who plays mind games, not Mr nice guy Leo

Rare I’d be glad another province lost, but I don’t think I’d have been able to handle the gloating if they’d won.

I do agree that we’re missing that edge and that more ‘journeyman’ figure, Snyman should hopefully fill that gap a bit if he can stay fit.

What a disappointing end to the club season. I was never enthused about Nienbar's appointment and remain unconvinced. All facets of our game were better last year. We would have beaten that Toulouse team out of the park with last year's team.

I've never thought the SA style was one we should be looking to emulate. The messing with the 6-2 split, keeping your best players on the bench. Our attack has regressed massively, the vaunted defense couldn't handle pretty basic tactics from the Bulls today.

Nobody wanted Frawley 6 years ago, He played a few games at 10 for Leinster in the league and it wasn't good, hence why he was swapped to another position.

frawley only got some eye brows raised in the NZ tour when he flew as a centre.

Predergast has no requirement to be sent to Connacht unless he wants to, which it looks like he doesn't. He has got significant minutes this season

Frawley has been in the Leinster senior set up for seven years. For the last 5 years the coaches who train him every day have seen him as a 12 or a 15.

He isn't the answer at 10 and never has been.

The dog of war went missing today.

There are issues with the way the club season is structured that makes it hard to compete on two fronts for the URC and CC.

The round of 16 in Europe is a pointless fixture and keeps bad sides in Europe for an extra fixture. Same with there being playoffs for top 8 in the URC.

Ultimately, it's up to us to just win and we're now at the stage where we're not doing that. Especially against sides we have better players than. At least on paper anyway.

No! But the points made still stand.

I’m a season ticket holder and going to Leinster games and inter pros since 1990.

I’m sad the both Munster and Leinster lost today. Each for different reasons.

Terrible to see the mismanagement happening at Leinster.

Ultimately it’s bad for Irish rugby.

They would beat us out the gate on today's showing

Plus it not one coach, multiple coachs now have worked with Frawley for years and none of them have pushed for him to start at 10 so I would expect they know more than people online

Leo, Lancaster, Nienaber, Goodman, Contepomi all have been at Leinster recently and none have played Frawley at 10 to start game

Ross, Harry and Predergast is a good selection of 10's for next season, they can fight it out over who is the best over the season