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Why wont die hard GAA fans admit football these days is muck?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Looking at the Galway -Armagh game now……what a complete load of rubbish.

    How can folk defend this offering as any kind of an entertaining watch??

    Crowd quiet, commentators struggling to inject any excitement, complete borefest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,003 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Mayo V Dublin wasn't bad but there are still a lot of players afraid to have a shot from any kind of distance.

    Good to see Dublin play outside Croke park, they have it too easy always playing there.

    was reading about the new rules, it sounds promising but I wouldn't agree with some of them and would add a few more.

    https://www.irishpost.com/sport/canavan-cautious-about-new-gaa-rules-273754

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41417419.html

    I think the goalkeepers should be banned from going too far from their goal, 2 players max can tackle an opposition player. I don't get why they would change throwing the ball between 4 players at the start of the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,537 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Keepers come out to contribute to attacking play, not in any defensive role. Making them stay near the goals would take away from this positive aspect.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,003 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    There is already a problem of the pitch being clogged up with too many players, keepers coming out only adds to the problem.



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    On the plus side it can lead to the hilarity of goals such as Damien Comer kicking into an empty net two years ago v Derry.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,147 ✭✭✭Notmything


    Both the Kildare and Laois goalies were nearly caught out today losing possession when going up the pitch.

    The Kildare crowd were noticeably venting whenever Kildare played a pass backwards esp when they were chasing the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Correct, Practically everyone interested in Gaelic Football realizes that changes must be made to improve the product.

    The spectators, the commentators, the pundits, the players , the ex players, the top brass, etc etc.

    There are a few contrarians who go about waving clipboards who it would seem want the current walking pace

    shunting around of groups of players is an entertaining watch.

    Most sensible realize changes are needed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    The fcukkerry before a ball is thrown in at the start of a game is frankly stupid.

    All in wrestling most times……… good move to get rid of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,537 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Kieran McGeeney wouldn't agree. He was on the radio again after the Armagh game today, saying how much better the current format is than what went before. He was especially dismissive of the nonsene that people come up with about Mickey Mouse games in the groups.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-41334874.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    He would be in a small minority, no surprise that his wing man is ‘Starry Boy’ x basketball player.

    If Kieran thinks that the first half of todays game was “much better than what went before” well, good luck

    to him.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,003 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    its more interesting though, who will won the ball thrown up between 4 players.

    im surprised Gavin didnt suggest banning the keepers roaming from their goal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,537 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    There is some feedback from the survey results to date. It is still open until the end of the month. I think it is just a lot of tinkering for the sake of it, and there will be very little change. I can see players voting down the suggestion to make them stay within certain areas of the pitch. Just like they rejected the limit on hand passes. And if referees have a say, they would certainly want to stop it. The crowds won't go up or down according to how many players are in certain parts of the field.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2024/06/11/jim-gavins-committee-ready-to-assess-potential-changes-to-football-this-weekend/

    "Teams will be required to keep three outfield players, plus goalkeeper, within the 65m line. Goalkeepers will continue to be allowed to play out of goal but once past the 65-metre line, must be covered by another player."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,003 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    It shouldnt matter what the players want, if they dont like the changes they can play another sport, these changes arent being tried for the craic, they are needed before the majority of fans stop watching and more importantly stop giving the GAA their hard earned money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭windy shepard henderson


    what shouldn't matter is the opinions of the couch potatoes and the channel hoppers that still want to be watching the euros and the ulster championship at the same time

    the current situation is perfect for hurling and football supporters and players , screw the fair weather folk , if they want to watch rugby or soccer let them off the games wont die



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Correct, you see, Pee, unfortunately there are folk out there who can’t see the wood from the trees.

    Are there people out there who seem to think everything is ‘hunky-dory’ in Gaelic Football when

    from the very top down the personnel know that change is needed?

    The clipboard and statistic nerds need to be curbed and quickly before Gaelic Football becomes

    a Procession of players trundling around the field and any atmosphere and excitement is gone.

    It’s like that at a lot of games already….luckily GAA management have stepped in before it’s too late



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,002 ✭✭✭WesternZulu


    I'm sorry but there isn't a hope in hell that the "clipboard and statistic nerds" will be curbed out even with rule changes.

    There isn't a sport on the planet that has gone in that direction.

    It's akin to saying that tactics should be curbed out of the sport.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Just heard Ja on the radio and if anyone is in doubt about his opinion on the state of Gaelic football …its there on Morning Ireland.

    Ja is a good communicator and indeed emphasised that all proposals will be thoroughly teased out before any changes are made.

    The committee is a very strong one and I have every hope that they will act in the best interests of Gaelic football.

    Its badly needed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,299 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    I have to disagree there, of course tactics will always be there in sport, but proper rule changes should limit the

    effect certain 'tactics' produce. I had to look and see if I said "curbed out" and I didn't, they will never be "curbed out"

    but their influence can certainly be reduced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,458 ✭✭✭megadodge


    "It shouldn't matter what the players want"

    Of all the brain-dead ignorant comments that the whingers have come up with on this thread that there takes the biscuit.

    That is a frightening level of stupidity displayed in just a few words.

    It reminds me of the time Roy Keane highlighted the FAI administrators travelling first-class, while the players were in economy. I mean, they're only the players, how important could they possibly be, especially compared to the people who really matter? HUH???

    You've really outdone yourself this time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,003 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    Well them players will be retired in a few years, you cant be thinking short term with an issue like this, your problem is you aren't thinking long term, who cares what a 25 year old county player wants now, he will likely be retired in 10 years time but he wont quit the game because of rule changes made now.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,092 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    You are completely wrong here. Sport data has gone so, so far now that no matter what rule changes are brought in, data analysts and performance analysts will figure out over time what the high percentage strategies are for their team.

    It’s getting bigger and more important every year - GAA still a million miles behind the curve so I’m afraid you’re only gonna see more of it while they try to catch up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,458 ✭✭✭megadodge


    "who cares what a 25 year old county player wants now"

    Jesus!

    Keep digging.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,003 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,458 ✭✭✭megadodge


    We will disagree.

    Because there is NOTHING more important to any sport than those who actually play it.

    Without them you don't have a sport.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,003 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    The fans are what really matter to the GAA, without them there is no money, and money is what the GAA want.

    Do you think all the current players will quit gaelic football over a few rules changes? and take up Rugby or soccer instead? will they hell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,537 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    A few rule changes. There are probably 200 rule changes dreamt up on this thread. To go with the dozens of genius plans to reorganise the competitions. Will they accept having nonsense ideas imposed on them? Will they hell.

    https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/inter-county-players-reject-handpass-proposal/37534306.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,037 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    You think that armchair "fans" like yourself are more important than the players. Ha ha. Please, please drop the mask now, and admit that you are just trolling. Cause if you aren't, you need to have a serious chat with yourself.

    You said in a previous post that you will have to agree to disagree with another poster. I would be amazed if anyone agrees with your ridiculous statement. I have gone to a fair few intercounty matches since the beginning of the year. Maybe 15? But that is nothing in comparison to what all of the players have contributed in the past 5 months or so. All the time training. All the sacrifices. I'm paying a few bob to go to the matches. But I am the one getting great entertainment for my money. Just out of curiousity, in terms of the entertainment industry - who do you think is more important - the artists making music, or the fans getting the enjoyment; or actors/directors making movies, or the audience sitting on their ar$es watching the movies?

    You really have no idea.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,003 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    As I said in 10 years time, the 25 year old now will be 35 and his playing career over, that is different to musicians as most of them can play to audiences until they die.

    You are putting the players on a pedestal, no one will care about them when they retire. The game is more important that the current players opinions.

    I played the game for 20 years, so I am entitled to my opinion on the game as is anyone who is willing to fork out money to watch games. But as I said I wont attend any games until it improves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,537 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    It will have to "improve" a lot to satisfy someone who think it is muck.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,037 ✭✭✭flasher0030


    Of course I put the players on a pedestal. They are the ones providing the entertainment. We (i.e. the supporters) are the ones who get to lap it up.

    Of course you get to voice your opinion. I'm just saying that I would be amazed if anyone would agree with your opinion that the fans are more important to the game than the players. And if only one individual has an opinion that is the opposite to many other opinions, I think it's fair to say that opinion can be discarded in the majority of situations.

    On your last sentence, I'm delighted that you won't be attending games. I think that the atmosphere at games is usually worsened by the negativity brought by the likes of yourself and Bendar.



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