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Rory McIlroy - 4 Time Major Winner

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  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭Kincora2017


    I’m probably stating the obvious here, but I think Tiger massively altered people’s perception (especially non golfers) of the difficulty of winning a major. McIlroy probably should be on about 6 at this stage, he certainly should have won yesterday anyway. 6 would put him in the territory of the greatest European player of all time and top 10 greatest player ever (probably)- that’s how difficult it is to do. Even at 4 majors won he’s top 25 of all time - an unbelievable achievement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,851 ✭✭✭CMcsporty


    Best idea and comment I've heard or read today

    I had the hunch he was going to miss that putt on 18.

    It was a little fecker of a putt. Understandable that he didn't hole it.

    Didn't think he had a chance this week. Course didn't suit him and yet he played himself into contention.

    71 (-1) 2015 Masters (-9, Never in contention 4th) Spieth -18

    72 [+2] 2015 US OEPN Chambers Bay (E, Back door T9) Spieth -5

    71 (-1) 2015 PGA Whistling Straights (-5, 17th) Day -20

    70 (-2) 2016 Masters (+1, T10) Willet -5

    77 [+7] 2016 US OEPN Oakmont (was a shadow of his former ultra confident self) DJ -4, MC

    69 (-2) 2016 Brit Open (-4, Back door T5) Stenson -20

    74 [+4] 2016 PGA Baltusrol, Walker -16, MC

    72 [e] 2017 Masters (-3, Back door T7) Garcia -9

    78 [+6] 2017 US OEPN Erin Hills, Koepka -16, MC

    71 [+1] 2017 Brit Open (-5, Back door T4) Spieth -12

    ‘You’re Rory McIlroy, what the **** are you doing?’ I said, ‘Yeah’. At that point I mumbled and said, ‘Whatever.’

    (Fires JP!!!)

    72 [+1] 2017 PGA Quail Hollow (+1, T22 mentality and game was a shadow of itself) Thomas -8

    69 (-3) 2018 Masters (-9, Crumbled in the final round T5) Reed -15

    80 [+10] 2018 US OEPN Shinnecock Hills, Koepka +1, MC

    69 (-2) 2018 Brit Open (-6, Never truly in contention until an Eagle on 14th. 2nd) Molinari -8

    70 [e] 2018 PGA Bellerive (-2, T50) Koepka -16

    73 [+1] 2019 Masters (-5, T21) Tiger -13

    72 [+2] 2019 PGA Bethpage (+1, Back door T8) Koepka -8

    68 (-3) 2019 US OEPN Pebble Beach (-5, T9) Woodland -13

    79 [+8] 2019 Brit Open, Lowry -15, MC

    70 [e] 2020 PGA Harding Park (-2, T33) Morikawa -13

    67 (-3) 2020 US OEPN Winged Foot (+6, T8) DeChambeau -6

    75 [+3] 2020 Masters (-11, T5) DJ -20

    76 (+4) 2021 Masters, Matsuyama -10, MC

    72 [e] 2021 PGA Kiawah Isl (+5, T49) Mickelson -6

    69 (-2) 2021 US OEPN Torrey Pines (-1, T7) Rahm -6

    70 [e] - 2021 Brit Open (E, T46) Morikawa -15

    73[+1] 2022 Masters (-7, Never in contention. 2nd) Scheffler -10

    65 (-5) 2022 Southern Hills (-2, Never in contention. 8th) Thomas -5

    67 (-3) 2022 US OEPN Brookline (-2, T5) Fitzpatrick -6

    66 (-6) 2022 Brit Open (-18, 3rd) Smith -20

    72 [e] 2023 Masters, Rahm -12, MC

    71 [+1] 2023 PGA Oak Hill (-2, T7) Koepka -9

    65 (-5) 2023 US OEPN LACC (-9, 2nd) Clark -10

    71 [e] 2023 Brit Open (-6, Back door T6) Harman -13

    71 (-1) 2024 Masters (+4, T22) Scheffler -11

    66 (-5) 2024 PGA Valhalla (-12, T12) Schauffele -21

    65 (-5) 2024 US OEPN Pinehurst (-1, 2nd) DeChambeau -6

    I've been actively rooting against him for more than 10 years. The amount of uneducated comments and cheap shots he's getting today, even from his own 'fans', makes me laugh and shake my head.

    I'm now hoping he goes on to win another major! I think he'll do it to. Next year. PGA at Quail Hollow or Brit Open at Portrush.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    The real killer was the one on 16 I think. Three putt from what 15, 18 feet with a miss from 2.5 feet. I think that one rattled him. As it would, it was terrible. I'd be pissed with it myself and I'm only a weekend hacker. If he doesnt miss that one he probably doesnt miss the one on 18 either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,545 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    When was the last time you seen someone who was in the clubhouse come back out to the green to congratulate the winner. Maybe if he was in the same group as him it would be disrespectful.

    Any excuse to kick the lad when he is down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,545 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Rory really likes quail hollow and I imagine knows his way around Portrush.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,043 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,545 ✭✭✭irishgeo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Infoseeker1975


    Rory was brilliant for 14 holes, his only bogey on the 5th was bad luck as it should have fallen off the green into the bunker.

    For me, the 7 iron on 15th was the wrong club, it landed pin high when long was dead, his putt for par was slow so anything short was going to be ok. He played 16 perfectly until that putt, I cannot believe he missed that, he has not missed a putt within 3ft this year so that was the big moment for me, the putt on the last was a really tricky one, any pace and he would have had 6ft+ coming back.

    Bryson his an outrageous bunker shot as anything more than 15ft past the flag would be 3 putt territory.

    Felt Rory was very unlucky with Clark last year, not sure what hole it was in the final round but it was a par 3 he missed left down a massive hill, hit a bump & run and it went in, he might still be trying a year on trying to reproduce that and then Cam Smith just putted like a freak of nature at the Open, last night he had control and should have won, gutted for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,824 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    As well as being a top top golfer, as these guys are, you need a decent piece of luck to win a tournament at a course like this(any course really). BDC has been getting great lies all week bar a few occasions and he had played an exceptional short game. Rory's luck hasn't been as prevalent, he played some great golf and a couple of variables here and there went against him.

    Psychologically though this one is a killer, will need to get back to basics again.

    He will go again and no doubt will continue to perform amongst the top golfers in the world the next while.

    Someone said earlier he could do with an extended year out of the game, I don't disagree but is there any precedence for this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,718 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Ive waited a while to let the result sink in and the emotion abate a little. I can only imagine how R Mac is feeling.

    The only thing ill say is its golf. Not life and death. He needs to move on from It and quickly. No point dwelling.

    But lads it was a pure bottle job. Pressure and his own expectations missed those putts.

    Dechambeau didnt win it. Rory won it for him.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,026 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,026 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    The MOD EDIT Ease off the personal insults please didn't give away the PGA championship. he was beaten by a player who played better all through.

    Rory lost the US open, it wasn't a case where he couldn't catch somebody.

    Those are completely different circumstances.

    You have no regrets if you give your best and it's not good enough. When you make awful errors you are sick to the pit of your stomach.

    Post edited by slave1 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,856 ✭✭✭Allinall


    He’s a grown man acting like a spoilt child who didn’t get his way.

    Deserves to be called out on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭AyeGer


    Right he was imo, poor man was devastated. He does more than enough media. Last thing he needed was some journalist asking him for his analysis of what went wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭AyeGer


    Terrible take Citizen. Bryson is a top tier golfer who earned his win last night with 4 solid rounds of golf and a superb bunker shot on 18.

    Rory was literally a centimetre from sinking that putt on 18 and going into a playoff with Bryson for the US Open on a very tough course. He is far from a joke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,856 ✭✭✭Allinall


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,711 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    McIlroy not talking to the media after a disappointing finish happens a lot, ironically he can't stop talking pre tournament.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭AyeGer


    Perfect opportunity for McIlroy to take a major step back from the media anyway. I don’t think talking to them does him any good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,043 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    New information there on Newstalk - when Rory went into the locker room - Garcia was on the scene smiling - in fairness to Rory if that arsehole was on the scene , it puts a different light on stuff.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭letsbefair


    Nobody knows the full storey. Rory is human, don't kick a guy when he is down. If he never wins again he is still a great player and a decent man, an all time great.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭joebloggs32


    Tayto man you are time travelling.

    I made that comment after a tournament 6 weeks ago.

    My observation made last night was that the wrong club selected on the par 3 was where the rot set in. Course management demanded a club that could not go long.

    Again course management got him on the 18th. Apart from two poor putts obviously, decision making cost him badly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭Barnaboy


    He has just posted on X.... as expected not playing again until Scotland.

    https://x.com/McIlroyRory/status/1802808477271630075?t=ce4ggq2DeGcaUuur-BJ9bQ&s=19



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,886 ✭✭✭Barnaboy


    Brilliant article from Golf Digest writer who followed Rory up close. Puts a lot in perspective.

    https://www.golfdigest.com/story/us-open-2024-rory-mcilroy



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,026 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Either you never played sport or you never really cared about winning. If you don't understand how somebody would feel after finishing like that then you really shouldn't be talking about it.

    I'd be disgusted with myself and want to be alone if I lost like that. It'd take me a while to get over it. Luckily there is another major and a chance to redeem himself.

    MOD EDIT, you know better, attack the post, not the poster

    Post edited by slave1 on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,026 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    The two poor putts were the difference between winning and losing. It's that simple.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,179 ✭✭✭tritriagain


    The same could be said of dcb s bunker shot. Difference of winning and going to play off. That's Sport and in particular that's golf. Rory could have won it but he didn't. ..... But disrespectful to winner to say Rory lost it. Whoever the winner was to be.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I don’t think it’s disrespectful to Bryson to say McIlroy lost it. Yes Bryson took advantage of McIlroys mistakes, but he did so unconvincingly (with the exception of the bunker shot) and was over par for the last 4 holes after McIlroy went 2 ahead with 5 to play. McIlroy was leading by two, dropped 3 shots in the last 4 holes including two short putts. I don’t think anyone watching that would conclude anything other than McIlroy let that one slip away, hence his understandable devastation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    has he ever won a British open / Claret Jug ? (how long will it take for someone to jump in and say there is no such thing as the ‘British Open’ )



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Not long, Asdfgh2020 got in there ahead of everyone else.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,640 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Nonsense. The denial is unreal.

    DeChambeau was exactly the opponent that McIlroy needed. De Chambeau was falling apart, he couldn’t hold his putter, he wasn’t striking his putts properly at all. He was handing the tournament to McIlroy on a plate but somehow McIlroy managed to hand it back to him and when the De Chambeau managed to save par from the bunker on 18 it should have been chasing a play off spot at best.

    At the time after McIlroy missed the second sitter and while the other fella was scrambling around the place on the 18th I texted someone the old adage that Bill Shankly famously said that I “hoped they both lose”. It was a pity that Cantlay or someone else wasn’t close enough to beat both of them.

    An horrendous display of panic from two experienced players. The last one left standing because the other one fell apart worse than he did.

    McIlroy has to pull himself together. It doesn’t do him any favours to be making excuses for the way he threw that title away whether he ever wins another Major or not.



  • Administrators Posts: 54,168 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I'm not a sports psychologist so I know nothing about this stuff really but I would have thought it would be better to get straight out on the course again as soon as possible rather than spending weeks with nothing to think about other than those putts.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭moycullen14


    I agree. I think the missed putts were the result of some very ropey play down the stretch. Pinehust just seemed to chip away at the players, causing them huge stress and then bang, you have a disaster. They key shot for me was the overclub at the par 3 (15th?). It never looked right after that.

    Must say that BDC's bunker shot at the last was as good a shot as I've ever seen.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,245 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    He has a lot going on at home, in some respects spending a few weeks there could be a blessing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,026 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Obviously you never saw Matt Fitzpatrick's bunker shot from 159 yards two year ago? .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,729 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    In!!

    There was never a “British” Open

    And Rory has won two Open Championshios I believe.

    Edit: one… 2014



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,043 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    I find some of the commentary on Rory very, very unpleasant. Booting a man when he's down with some really hyperbolic language. Heard Newstalk this morning and a chat between a presenter who knows nothing about sport (Ciara Kelly) and a fella who has never played sport to any level (John Duggan) and they were using words like "embarrassing", "choked" and "meltdown". There's a person on the end of this who I'd bet is in a pretty bad place right now mentally. Irresponsible chatter from two people who should know better. I'm sure Rory wasn't listening to Newstalk but that sort of stuff builds a narrative that just needs feeding to reach him in some form or other.

    Really hope he comes back and wins a couple of majors. He's a wonderful player and seems a decent lad too IMO. Yeah the last 4 holes on Sunday were poor (especially after a brilliant first 14) but he isn't the first great golfer to do it and won't be the last.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,729 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    The most stupid stuff I am hearing is how a world class golfer aged only 35 who has won dozens a top class tournaments will never win another major. So stupid. Golf is not like tennis, where pretty much all the time the best players playing their best ONLY win.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,851 ✭✭✭CMcsporty


    Article in the Irish Times and headline below.

    A disgrace.

    There is a sickness in sport and articles like these are one of the root causes of the issue.

    It's everything you don't want to read or hear in sports and sports writing

    Its also factually wrong.

    I've copied the full article (and included the link) I would encourage you not to give him the click. Its also a 'subscribers only'

    'choked'

    "mental breakdown"

    "dweebier"

    Toxic language and ALL about winning.
    NO its not.
    This mentality is perpetuated by sports writers/hacks.
    It manifests itself in how our children engage in sports.
    Nothing about sportsmanship, sincerity & honesty in the game. Or the great competitive nature that was on display.

    Golf is a great game. Unquestionably all those in contention were giving 100% of themselves.

    These are the values that should be championed.

    Mon Jun 17 2024 - 10:02

    "Rory McIlroy choked at the US Open and he has nobody to blame but himself"

    This wasn’t about Bryson DeChambeau’s bunker shot or McIlroy’s perennially put-upon caddie - it was about the scrambled brain that led to two short putts being missed when everything was on the line


    This one is going to linger. It has to. In the days and weeks and surely even years to come, Rory McIlroy is going to feel the sting of what happened in those 23 minutes on Sunday night at Pinehurst. Extending his 10-year purgatory without a major is one thing. Finding a completely new way to come up short is another. Especially when there’s nobody to blame but himself.

    Missing two putts inside four feet in any round is bad for any pro golfer. Doing it in the final three holes to lose a US Open by a shot means everything else melts away. Every other factor in the result becomes irrelevant.

    Bryson DeChambeau’s bunker shot for all time? Couldn’t have mattered less had McIlroy sunk the two putts. Those curious club/shot selections down the stretch? A wry footnote at worst, something to laugh about through the puffed cheeks of victory. Backing off shots in the closing holes? Understandable nerves, actually quite sweet in a way – as long as the putts go down.

    But they didn’t.

    This wasn’t Harry Diamond’s fault. McIlroy’s perennially picked-upon caddie got his man to the 70th green of a US Open with a one-shot lead and a 30-inch putt for par. Nothing a bagman can do in that scenario but presume his boss will see it out. It wasn’t down to a Cam Smith-style run of birdies from an opponent on a hot streak either – DeChambeau had his worst score of the week and played his last five holes in one over par.

    No, this one is entirely on McIlroy. He choked, plain and simple. He did everything right until he got within sight of the finish line and then he did everything wrong. His putter, which had been such a laser-guided weapon all week and particularly on Sunday, turned into a jelly snake right at the moment of highest tension and sharpest consequence. This can only have been due to a mental meltdown.

    As the leading golf statto Justin Ray pointed out, McIlroy had faced 496 putts inside three feet all season standing on the 16th green and had made all 496 of them. He had holed them in every circumstance, from early Thursday mornings to late Sunday evenings and all imaginable scenarios in between. Of the countless ways for his challenge to fall apart, every analyst of his game would have got a long way down the list before landing on his short putting.

    The days of people watching him through their fingers as he stood over important putts were long gone, we thought. At Pinehurst on Sunday, he was having one of the great putting days of his career. Even with the two tiddlers missed down the stretch, the cold numbers say he still ranked eighth in the field for strokes gained putting in the final round.

    His technique was sound, his speed was on the money – so many of his putts died in the hole, a clear indication that he and Diamond had worked out the puzzle of Pinehurst’s baked, humpbacked greens across the week. He was like a Vegas magician who had built his illusion step-by-step and layer-by-layer. He had the audience sitting forward in their seats agog, ready for the last big flourish of the reveal.

    Except now, when he reached into his top hat, there was no rabbit to pull out. The easiest part of the trick had become the most difficult. All the lights were on him, all the trumpets were tuned and ready. All the scrapes and calluses of a decade’s toil in the majors were about to get their payoff. And the weight of it crushed him.

    The psychodrama will play out over the next while, as it must. It will be fascinating to see how he handles it. He’s down to play the Travellers Championship this week. Will he turn up? If he does, will he do a press conference? Will he talk about choking, that great unspeakable bogeyman taboo of golf?

    He should. If nothing else, it would take the sting out of the phrase for everyone. Choking happens to all golfers at one stage or another, yet none of them ever cop to it. For a crowd of lads who are typically among the dweebier end of the sporting population, there’s a drearily macho refusal to ever admit to mental fragility. McIlroy could change all that, if he liked.

    It would be understandable if he didn’t feel that was a priority this week, obviously. But it might do him some good at the same time. He has to find some way of moving on from this.

    How he goes about it will keep the rest of us agog for a while yet.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/golf/2024/06/17/rory-mcilroy-choked-at-the-us-open-and-he-has-nobody-to-blame-but-himself/

    Malachy Clerkin you are a hack.

    Gutter journalism.

    & once again I'm no fan of McIlroy but the person and sport do not deserve this type of coverage.

    Post edited by CMcsporty on


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭boardise


    True enough .

    I presume the contention is that the percentages favoured a 3 wood on the fairway and an iron in to leave him on the green with a two putts for par ( plus the chance of a birdie ). In that scenario he could well end up with a similar shortie for par anyway but there might be marginally less tension involved. Even if his first putt had been a long one his distance putting had beentop notch all week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 891 ✭✭✭moycullen14


    No, not obvious. Just thought this was better. A lot of pros will tell you that their least favoured shout is the 50-60 yard bunker shot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,084 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    that article reads pretty true so I don't know why you think it's gutter journalism



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,064 ✭✭✭bren2001


    Toxic language and ALL about winning.

    Professional golf is all about winning. Professional sport is all about winning.

    Malachy Clerkin you are a hack.

    Gutter journalism.

    Probably one of the better journalists in Ireland when it comes to golf.

    Nothing wrong with that article at all. Balanced and fair. He choked.



  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Quango Unchained


    "McIlroy’s perennially picked-upon caddie got his man to the 70th green of a US Open with a one-shot lead and a 30-inch putt for par".

    The line above is factually wrong. They were all square at this point.

    "He did everything right until he got within sight of the finish line and then he did everything wrong."

    The line above is also not fair. He hit a wonderful pitch under tremendous pressure on the 18th to within 4 feet. He also held a good nervy putt on the 17th considering what had happened on 16. He didn't "completely" choke.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,600 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Apologies. Didn't see the date of post but I agree.



  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Quango Unchained


    "McIlroy had faced 496 putts inside three feet all season standing on the 16th green and had made all 496 of them. "

    While it may be factually true, also a bit disingenuous. How many of these were inside 1 foot? The greens were treacherous. It's a fact that I didn't miss any putts inside 3 feet at the 2024 US Open.



  • Registered Users Posts: 177 ✭✭whitelaurel


    god is there still people saying he didn’t choke. I mean ffs, it is what it is , what’s the big deal.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,600 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I don't think he choked completely but he had successfully sank 46 putts in a row from that distance and then missed 2 in three holes. Something changed.



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