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Rory McIlroy - 4 Time Major Winner

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  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭letsbefair


    Nobody knows the full storey. Rory is human, don't kick a guy when he is down. If he never wins again he is still a great player and a decent man, an all time great.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭joebloggs32


    Tayto man you are time travelling.

    I made that comment after a tournament 6 weeks ago.

    My observation made last night was that the wrong club selected on the par 3 was where the rot set in. Course management demanded a club that could not go long.

    Again course management got him on the 18th. Apart from two poor putts obviously, decision making cost him badly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Barnaboy


    He has just posted on X.... as expected not playing again until Scotland.

    https://x.com/McIlroyRory/status/1802808477271630075?t=ce4ggq2DeGcaUuur-BJ9bQ&s=19



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,807 ✭✭✭Barnaboy


    Brilliant article from Golf Digest writer who followed Rory up close. Puts a lot in perspective.

    https://www.golfdigest.com/story/us-open-2024-rory-mcilroy



  • Registered Users Posts: 38,496 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Either you never played sport or you never really cared about winning. If you don't understand how somebody would feel after finishing like that then you really shouldn't be talking about it.

    I'd be disgusted with myself and want to be alone if I lost like that. It'd take me a while to get over it. Luckily there is another major and a chance to redeem himself.

    MOD EDIT, you know better, attack the post, not the poster

    Post edited by slave1 on


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  • Registered Users Posts: 38,496 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    The two poor putts were the difference between winning and losing. It's that simple.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭tritriagain


    The same could be said of dcb s bunker shot. Difference of winning and going to play off. That's Sport and in particular that's golf. Rory could have won it but he didn't. ..... But disrespectful to winner to say Rory lost it. Whoever the winner was to be.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,577 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    I don’t think it’s disrespectful to Bryson to say McIlroy lost it. Yes Bryson took advantage of McIlroys mistakes, but he did so unconvincingly (with the exception of the bunker shot) and was over par for the last 4 holes after McIlroy went 2 ahead with 5 to play. McIlroy was leading by two, dropped 3 shots in the last 4 holes including two short putts. I don’t think anyone watching that would conclude anything other than McIlroy let that one slip away, hence his understandable devastation.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭Asdfgh2020


    has he ever won a British open / Claret Jug ? (how long will it take for someone to jump in and say there is no such thing as the ‘British Open’ )



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,577 ✭✭✭✭Dav010


    Not long, Asdfgh2020 got in there ahead of everyone else.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭TheCitizen


    Nonsense. The denial is unreal.

    DeChambeau was exactly the opponent that McIlroy needed. De Chambeau was falling apart, he couldn’t hold his putter, he wasn’t striking his putts properly at all. He was handing the tournament to McIlroy on a plate but somehow McIlroy managed to hand it back to him and when the De Chambeau managed to save par from the bunker on 18 it should have been chasing a play off spot at best.

    At the time after McIlroy missed the second sitter and while the other fella was scrambling around the place on the 18th I texted someone the old adage that Bill Shankly famously said that I “hoped they both lose”. It was a pity that Cantlay or someone else wasn’t close enough to beat both of them.

    An horrendous display of panic from two experienced players. The last one left standing because the other one fell apart worse than he did.

    McIlroy has to pull himself together. It doesn’t do him any favours to be making excuses for the way he threw that title away whether he ever wins another Major or not.



  • Administrators Posts: 53,845 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    I'm not a sports psychologist so I know nothing about this stuff really but I would have thought it would be better to get straight out on the course again as soon as possible rather than spending weeks with nothing to think about other than those putts.



  • Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭moycullen14


    I agree. I think the missed putts were the result of some very ropey play down the stretch. Pinehust just seemed to chip away at the players, causing them huge stress and then bang, you have a disaster. They key shot for me was the overclub at the par 3 (15th?). It never looked right after that.

    Must say that BDC's bunker shot at the last was as good a shot as I've ever seen.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 19,037 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    He has a lot going on at home, in some respects spending a few weeks there could be a blessing

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  • Registered Users Posts: 38,496 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Obviously you never saw Matt Fitzpatrick's bunker shot from 159 yards two year ago? .



  • Registered Users Posts: 56,135 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    In!!

    There was never a “British” Open

    And Rory has won two Open Championshios I believe.

    Edit: one… 2014



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,910 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,823 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    I find some of the commentary on Rory very, very unpleasant. Booting a man when he's down with some really hyperbolic language. Heard Newstalk this morning and a chat between a presenter who knows nothing about sport (Ciara Kelly) and a fella who has never played sport to any level (John Duggan) and they were using words like "embarrassing", "choked" and "meltdown". There's a person on the end of this who I'd bet is in a pretty bad place right now mentally. Irresponsible chatter from two people who should know better. I'm sure Rory wasn't listening to Newstalk but that sort of stuff builds a narrative that just needs feeding to reach him in some form or other.

    Really hope he comes back and wins a couple of majors. He's a wonderful player and seems a decent lad too IMO. Yeah the last 4 holes on Sunday were poor (especially after a brilliant first 14) but he isn't the first great golfer to do it and won't be the last.



  • Registered Users Posts: 56,135 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    The most stupid stuff I am hearing is how a world class golfer aged only 35 who has won dozens a top class tournaments will never win another major. So stupid. Golf is not like tennis, where pretty much all the time the best players playing their best ONLY win.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,771 ✭✭✭CMcsporty


    Article in the Irish Times and headline below.

    A disgrace.

    There is a sickness in sport and articles like these are one of the root causes of the issue.

    It's everything you don't want to read or hear in sports and sports writing

    Its also factually wrong.

    I've copied the full article (and included the link) I would encourage you not to give him the click. Its also a 'subscribers only'

    'choked'

    "mental breakdown"

    "dweebier"

    Toxic language and ALL about winning.
    NO its not.
    This mentality is perpetuated by sports writers/hacks.
    It manifests itself in how our children engage in sports.
    Nothing about sportsmanship, sincerity & honesty in the game. Or the great competitive nature that was on display.

    Golf is a great game. Unquestionably all those in contention were giving 100% of themselves.

    These are the values that should be championed.

    Mon Jun 17 2024 - 10:02

    "Rory McIlroy choked at the US Open and he has nobody to blame but himself"

    This wasn’t about Bryson DeChambeau’s bunker shot or McIlroy’s perennially put-upon caddie - it was about the scrambled brain that led to two short putts being missed when everything was on the line


    This one is going to linger. It has to. In the days and weeks and surely even years to come, Rory McIlroy is going to feel the sting of what happened in those 23 minutes on Sunday night at Pinehurst. Extending his 10-year purgatory without a major is one thing. Finding a completely new way to come up short is another. Especially when there’s nobody to blame but himself.

    Missing two putts inside four feet in any round is bad for any pro golfer. Doing it in the final three holes to lose a US Open by a shot means everything else melts away. Every other factor in the result becomes irrelevant.

    Bryson DeChambeau’s bunker shot for all time? Couldn’t have mattered less had McIlroy sunk the two putts. Those curious club/shot selections down the stretch? A wry footnote at worst, something to laugh about through the puffed cheeks of victory. Backing off shots in the closing holes? Understandable nerves, actually quite sweet in a way – as long as the putts go down.

    But they didn’t.

    This wasn’t Harry Diamond’s fault. McIlroy’s perennially picked-upon caddie got his man to the 70th green of a US Open with a one-shot lead and a 30-inch putt for par. Nothing a bagman can do in that scenario but presume his boss will see it out. It wasn’t down to a Cam Smith-style run of birdies from an opponent on a hot streak either – DeChambeau had his worst score of the week and played his last five holes in one over par.

    No, this one is entirely on McIlroy. He choked, plain and simple. He did everything right until he got within sight of the finish line and then he did everything wrong. His putter, which had been such a laser-guided weapon all week and particularly on Sunday, turned into a jelly snake right at the moment of highest tension and sharpest consequence. This can only have been due to a mental meltdown.

    As the leading golf statto Justin Ray pointed out, McIlroy had faced 496 putts inside three feet all season standing on the 16th green and had made all 496 of them. He had holed them in every circumstance, from early Thursday mornings to late Sunday evenings and all imaginable scenarios in between. Of the countless ways for his challenge to fall apart, every analyst of his game would have got a long way down the list before landing on his short putting.

    The days of people watching him through their fingers as he stood over important putts were long gone, we thought. At Pinehurst on Sunday, he was having one of the great putting days of his career. Even with the two tiddlers missed down the stretch, the cold numbers say he still ranked eighth in the field for strokes gained putting in the final round.

    His technique was sound, his speed was on the money – so many of his putts died in the hole, a clear indication that he and Diamond had worked out the puzzle of Pinehurst’s baked, humpbacked greens across the week. He was like a Vegas magician who had built his illusion step-by-step and layer-by-layer. He had the audience sitting forward in their seats agog, ready for the last big flourish of the reveal.

    Except now, when he reached into his top hat, there was no rabbit to pull out. The easiest part of the trick had become the most difficult. All the lights were on him, all the trumpets were tuned and ready. All the scrapes and calluses of a decade’s toil in the majors were about to get their payoff. And the weight of it crushed him.

    The psychodrama will play out over the next while, as it must. It will be fascinating to see how he handles it. He’s down to play the Travellers Championship this week. Will he turn up? If he does, will he do a press conference? Will he talk about choking, that great unspeakable bogeyman taboo of golf?

    He should. If nothing else, it would take the sting out of the phrase for everyone. Choking happens to all golfers at one stage or another, yet none of them ever cop to it. For a crowd of lads who are typically among the dweebier end of the sporting population, there’s a drearily macho refusal to ever admit to mental fragility. McIlroy could change all that, if he liked.

    It would be understandable if he didn’t feel that was a priority this week, obviously. But it might do him some good at the same time. He has to find some way of moving on from this.

    How he goes about it will keep the rest of us agog for a while yet.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/golf/2024/06/17/rory-mcilroy-choked-at-the-us-open-and-he-has-nobody-to-blame-but-himself/

    Malachy Clerkin you are a hack.

    Gutter journalism.

    & once again I'm no fan of McIlroy but the person and sport do not deserve this type of coverage.

    Post edited by CMcsporty on


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,438 ✭✭✭boardise


    True enough .

    I presume the contention is that the percentages favoured a 3 wood on the fairway and an iron in to leave him on the green with a two putts for par ( plus the chance of a birdie ). In that scenario he could well end up with a similar shortie for par anyway but there might be marginally less tension involved. Even if his first putt had been a long one his distance putting had beentop notch all week.



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,577 ✭✭✭✭Dav010




  • Registered Users Posts: 882 ✭✭✭moycullen14


    No, not obvious. Just thought this was better. A lot of pros will tell you that their least favoured shout is the 50-60 yard bunker shot.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,000 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    that article reads pretty true so I don't know why you think it's gutter journalism



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,700 ✭✭✭bren2001


    Toxic language and ALL about winning.

    Professional golf is all about winning. Professional sport is all about winning.

    Malachy Clerkin you are a hack.

    Gutter journalism.

    Probably one of the better journalists in Ireland when it comes to golf.

    Nothing wrong with that article at all. Balanced and fair. He choked.



  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Quango Unchained


    "McIlroy’s perennially picked-upon caddie got his man to the 70th green of a US Open with a one-shot lead and a 30-inch putt for par".

    The line above is factually wrong. They were all square at this point.

    "He did everything right until he got within sight of the finish line and then he did everything wrong."

    The line above is also not fair. He hit a wonderful pitch under tremendous pressure on the 18th to within 4 feet. He also held a good nervy putt on the 17th considering what had happened on 16. He didn't "completely" choke.



  • Registered Users Posts: 51,997 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Apologies. Didn't see the date of post but I agree.



  • Registered Users Posts: 77 ✭✭Quango Unchained


    "McIlroy had faced 496 putts inside three feet all season standing on the 16th green and had made all 496 of them. "

    While it may be factually true, also a bit disingenuous. How many of these were inside 1 foot? The greens were treacherous. It's a fact that I didn't miss any putts inside 3 feet at the 2024 US Open.



  • Registered Users Posts: 178 ✭✭whitelaurel


    god is there still people saying he didn’t choke. I mean ffs, it is what it is , what’s the big deal.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 51,997 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    I don't think he choked completely but he had successfully sank 46 putts in a row from that distance and then missed 2 in three holes. Something changed.



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