Eamon Ryan resigns before the General Election.

I suppose Ryan's decision further indicates an Autumn election, he probably had to go. Martin will likely replace him but it's hard to see her make a huge difference to their prospects. I assume he won't stand in the election so they'll definitely lose his seat.

I didn't accuse him of anything.

I just pointed out that it seemed neither he nor his fellow cadres had any particular interest in living a low-consumption lifestyle as such. Clothes was just one example that came up in the discussion.

Low consumption is an area where huge voluntary action is possible...yet it's the dog that didn't bark.

The 'green' movement is entirely about imposing changes on unwilling people in the context of forcing through political rules.

Often these rules are aimed sideways at groups living very differently from suburban green voters.

Then we wonder why its unpopular.

Unless you're a working person paying tax and mortgage on your old property. Then you have to fund the costs yourself with what pittance you have left, while costs are now skyrocketing as increased demand due to government funding this scheme along with general increased costs of building due to green levies. Meanwhile heating your energy inefficient house costs more as carbon taxes are applied to your bill, as if heating your house in Winter in Ireland is some kind of luxury extravagance that people can opt out of. T

I'm reading it as the opposite, he knows the election is relatively imminent and he needs to give Martin some chance.

They keep denying the election will be anytime soon, the Greens will now need time as well if they have a new leader I expect the policies will need to tweak

That's ridiculous on one hand but not unexpected on the other.

Anyway I'm firmly anti the greens so I'm happy with the change. Not that ryan was a great leader or anything but his heretofore safe seat in leafy south dublin's affluence is now not safe. Any reduction in the GPs number of seats is good

Eamonn managed to take them from nothing back into government

More than most party leader' have ever managed in their lifetime

They are never going to be popular with people and are a easy target, the Green party in the current term are getting blamed for stuff they had nothing to do with, like the closing of ESB power stations which was put in place before the last election

The big news item was turf, which both FF and FG blamed to ban before the last election but didn't get around to it. Yet it blew up this time and all the the blame laid with Green Party

Been firm anti Green and a new leader will not change their policies, even if they get kicked out of government next time don't expect a massive change in policies from the government, the path has already been set multiple years ago with some small tweaks made by the Greens

Some peopel seem to think(not you) removing the Green party and suddenly Ireland will decide to go nuclear, we won't

greens are fcuked, but that was to be expected going in with ffg, those lads will never change, and still enough will come out and vote them back in, we re stuck in a perpetual cycle of ffg unfortunately…..

Ryan said in his speech he won't be standing in the next election.

Not just fund them themselves, the greens have actually cut grant support for the ordinary working stiff.

….supporters of ffg need to realise the dangers of ignoring the fact, a large and potentially growing number are now starting to move towards radical views and candidates, theres clearly something fundamentally wrong with governments approach to critical issues such as housing, this isnt gonna end well!

its clearly obvious ffg are now gonna do everything in their power to block any sort of alternative governments, now is that really democracy!

talking about the us, maybe an element of their issues is by only having two main parties, and no real alternatives to governance!

Those who were paying attention during the decades-long farce of the Shannon stopover know that hobbling Dublin to try to benefit some other part of the country never works. When you hobble Dublin the whole country suffers.

Assuming the Green Party would take a few weeks for a leadership campaign, a machiavellian taoiseach would call an election today, and let the Green Party go into the election campaign leaderless.

I know the current government introduced vastly more green measures than the GP were responsible for. There were a lot from EU directives for instance, or already agreed commitments.

However, having a green minister for transport never sat well with me. I'm firmly anti green party and have been for years, despite being what should be their target base, 3 EVS outside and solar panels on the roof. I'm well over 100k into green initiatives. They (along with the rest of the government) are too prone to too much stick and not enough carrot approach, as well as giving incorrect carrots that simply waste taxpayer money and not getting any return. Punishing people blindly is not the way to achieve change. Adequately and correctly funding alternatives is the best way but we don't see this.

The greens could end up with two leadership elections in 2024. I think it's in their party rules that they must have a contest after a general election.

The forecast poor result would have seen Ryan out anyway.

Why not? Less disposable cheaply made crap, replaced by higher quality things that actually fulfil their purpose and can last for years.

Public water fountains are better than 500 million single use disposable plastic bottles

Reusable cutlery is better than plastic single use crap at 'restaurants'

Decent quality shoes are better than the utter shite in supermarkets that break after being worn 2 or 3 times

You can't go to Spain for sun anymore because it's too damn hot over there all summer long. I don't want to risk roasting to death in 40+ Celcius any time from May to October

Eamonn finally got FIT in for solar and 0% VAT on installations

Not full EV yet, still one big diesel but have spent lots on renewables as well.

I didn't vote Green Party, but I can see what they tried to do.

The stick is not going away, no matter who goes in, the Green party got the blame now for Government stick, who is up next to get the blame?