Eamon Ryan resigns before the General Election.

Catherine Martin will probably be the new leader by default, but after the 'leadership' she has shown with the RTE debacle, they are truly fcuked

I suppose Ryan's decision further indicates an Autumn election, he probably had to go. Martin will likely replace him but it's hard to see her make a huge difference to their prospects. I assume he won't stand in the election so they'll definitely lose his seat.

Think this is part of the problem, these schemes are only open to those on welfare payments.

The working class have to fund these improvements themselves and with most of the companies looking for state contracts it has made it quite expensive for those who have to pay for any green upgrades.

I didn't accuse him of anything.

I just pointed out that it seemed neither he nor his fellow cadres had any particular interest in living a low-consumption lifestyle as such. Clothes was just one example that came up in the discussion.

Low consumption is an area where huge voluntary action is possible...yet it's the dog that didn't bark.

The 'green' movement is entirely about imposing changes on unwilling people in the context of forcing through political rules.

Often these rules are aimed sideways at groups living very differently from suburban green voters.

Then we wonder why its unpopular.

Unless you're a working person paying tax and mortgage on your old property. Then you have to fund the costs yourself with what pittance you have left, while costs are now skyrocketing as increased demand due to government funding this scheme along with general increased costs of building due to green levies. Meanwhile heating your energy inefficient house costs more as carbon taxes are applied to your bill, as if heating your house in Winter in Ireland is some kind of luxury extravagance that people can opt out of. T

I'm reading it as the opposite, he knows the election is relatively imminent and he needs to give Martin some chance.

They keep denying the election will be anytime soon, the Greens will now need time as well if they have a new leader I expect the policies will need to tweak

That's ridiculous on one hand but not unexpected on the other.

Anyway I'm firmly anti the greens so I'm happy with the change. Not that ryan was a great leader or anything but his heretofore safe seat in leafy south dublin's affluence is now not safe. Any reduction in the GPs number of seats is good

Eamonn managed to take them from nothing back into government

More than most party leader' have ever managed in their lifetime

They are never going to be popular with people and are a easy target, the Green party in the current term are getting blamed for stuff they had nothing to do with, like the closing of ESB power stations which was put in place before the last election

The big news item was turf, which both FF and FG blamed to ban before the last election but didn't get around to it. Yet it blew up this time and all the the blame laid with Green Party

Been firm anti Green and a new leader will not change their policies, even if they get kicked out of government next time don't expect a massive change in policies from the government, the path has already been set multiple years ago with some small tweaks made by the Greens

Some peopel seem to think(not you) removing the Green party and suddenly Ireland will decide to go nuclear, we won't

greens are fcuked, but that was to be expected going in with ffg, those lads will never change, and still enough will come out and vote them back in, we re stuck in a perpetual cycle of ffg unfortunately…..