FF/FG/Green Government - Part 3 - Threadbanned User List in OP

Indian social media mob???

Underhand racist reference to nationality of the former Taoiseach? We have been here before with a previous departed poster.

Theres little point in saying here that SF are down 50% in the last decade,SF know that

It'embarassing for them that all these things are supposesly wrong in the economy and voters aren't turning to them this year,why ?

50% less seats than they has under Gerry Adams

Is that a performance for an opposition party to shout about ?

No

That's pathetic.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/politics/arid-41410286.html

Are we to believe this is news to you? I've referenced it on this thread at least 3 times. I supplied a link the first time.

Anyone attempting to use race to win a point, just because they are floundering in a political discussion, should be ashamed of themselves.

Besides, Micheal Martin was born in Cork.

Very interesting local elections. The EU elections kinda bore me to be honest - sending 14 so-and-sos to a parliament of 720 to milk the expenses. Just glad Wallace and Daly and the radio jock didn't get in. I voted Ming. A few observations in relation to FFGG and locals. The incumbents and celebrity candidates did very well. My own LEA elected the exact same 4 councillors on the first count although one of them was previously FF (and plagued with corruption allegations) and had jumped to II who did well overall. FG managed to somehow completely rehabilitate FF since the crash. I think the Floating voter block were a little frightened by the far right loons and reverted to status quo, SocDems and Independent Ireland and that's no harm. I have no problem with SF having a bad election - their populist guff and constant moaning turned people off. I have always wanted to see new parties emerge from the large group of Independents but they will need time to establish. Greens were wiped out as expected but FFG really stabbed them in the back during the campaign and that will come back to haunt them. I did notice that Leo is truly unpopular (no need for the fake cards you-know-who) after all those years even though I think Leo has way more substance and ability than Simon. I think Simon will irk the electorate very quickly. The young people didn't come out to vote which is always a pity but I don't think local elections excite younger voters.

FG are now in huge trouble. The Dail elections will also favour incumbents and FG are losing half their sitting TDs to retirement. I also think Simon will get too cocky for his own good and let the mask slip. As usual we will have a summer of chaos and scandals and then we are looking at the serious election. Watch how FFG don't touch the scary topics (Children's Hospital, RTE & License Fees, Hate Speech, Immigration plans, Planning reform - any reform!, Covid Inquiry etc) before the general election.

Greens did get wiped out - that's a historical fact Clo. No MEP and lost more than half of their seats. This is a fact. FG will lose many TDs soon.

I don’t share this opinion at all, they did exceedingly well for a party that has been in power for 11 years, if anything I’d say Harris is under pressure from inside the party to call a GE immediately while the going is good. I’d say they are pinching themselves, they expected to lose massively.

And I am sure you could point to all those predictions? Spoof. FFGG have only been in government once together and there has been no Dail election since 2020. Patience grasshopper.

Yes. They were quite giddy with the results.

If it weren't for their long decline, I'd say wait until something turns around and call a snap GE, but I think 'not as bod as they thought' is the best they can hope for.

So two of the coalition parties will have renewed themselves with new leaders before the general election, as have the Social Democrats and Labour.

Leaves FF and SF looking like the staid old parties.

I think you might be a bit shocked after next election and whichever party is in control and the plan for environment, power generation etc doesn't change.

MM was the favorite to go first and has lasted the longest

I still don't think he will go into the next election and will jump beforehand

MM doesn't make the decision to go into government with anyone, that is a party decision.

From the conversations I have had very very few people if any wants to do anything with SF

Not sure how popular he is, the people I know want to see him leave while at the top and thought he would go after his stint as Taoiseach, to try regenerate the party

I hope she gets the job. It'll only accelerate the move back to irrelevancy where these ideologues and fantasists belong.

Martin proved her complete lack of competency in the handling of the RTE farce. She's perfect for suceeding Ryan.

MM sent Cowen on the EU gravy train so one of his biggest enemies is absent. Big Jim has lost his best ally for his plan to oust MM and given MM delivered the largest party in local government, Jim will have to stay quiet. FF could well be the largest party in the Dail fairly soon too.

Like labour, SF turned their back on their core support and are now paying the price. Mary Lou spends too much time being a jack of all trades and master of none. She, like Leo and Ryan should step down.

I still stand by long held view that SF have no real interest of actually being in government. Far too easy to talk absolute nonsense from the opposition benches. Couple that with being hilariously weak outside of a few politicians. They shouldn't be surprised at all.