Why wont die hard GAA fans admit football these days is muck?

You are correct…..a shot clock wouldn’t work.

First problem is ‘define a shot’.

I wouldn’t go there.

All the games in the Championship and the Tailteann Cup, and yet the U20 hurling final smashed them in terms of promotion, anticipation and entertainment. Granted, a final with a team going for their first title will grab the imagination, but still, come on.

As for the games themselves, some of the football was actually quite good, some great scores, some great attacking play, some good entertainment. But it's in fits and starts, and doesn't last long. Having 20 minutes (usually attacking) good football is still 50 minutes of bad football, and that 20 minutes is doing a lot of papering over the cracks.

I don't know how you do it, but when one underage hurling match drums up more anticipation and entertainment than a full round of Championship/Tailteann Cup football combined, questions need to be asked.

Start by scrapping the preliminary QF for a start, it's robbing the round robin phase of any real cut or sense of danger. At least that would liven up the group phase. You might end up with some dead rubbers in the last round going forward, but better to have 2/3 rounds full on than the 3 rounds of 'meh' we currently have.

As for the sport itself, possession is obviously a huge part of it, but saps the life out of it as a spectacle unless it's forward moving. I don't know how we combat that (maybe designated forwards, no backwards handpass, no going back after you cross a 45), but it needs to make it so team attack more, because at the end of the day there's nothing wrong with the sport when two teams go out to win we tend to have great games then, anything that forces teams to have a go or opens up the field to make it easier for teams to have a go needs to be considered.

Lookit, the GAA organisation and appointed folk will make these decisions, they are well qualified to do so.

The question has to be asked "why is a football review needed?"

Ill tell you why , its because those who can see what's happening know that the product is not a good watch right now.

Of course some of the stuff seen here is a good bit off the wall, but the underlying facts are that the games have become

much less attractive for the spectator.

The GAA management have seen this and have moved to try to fix it.

Time to grasp the nettle dude.

Both the Kildare and Laois goalies were nearly caught out today losing possession when going up the pitch.

The Kildare crowd were noticeably venting whenever Kildare played a pass backwards esp when they were chasing the game.

The fcukkerry before a ball is thrown in at the start of a game is frankly stupid.

All in wrestling most times……… good move to get rid of it.

He would be in a small minority, no surprise that his wing man is ‘Starry Boy’ x basketball player.

If Kieran thinks that the first half of todays game was “much better than what went before” well, good luck

to him.

There is some feedback from the survey results to date. It is still open until the end of the month. I think it is just a lot of tinkering for the sake of it, and there will be very little change. I can see players voting down the suggestion to make them stay within certain areas of the pitch. Just like they rejected the limit on hand passes. And if referees have a say, they would certainly want to stop it. The crowds won't go up or down according to how many players are in certain parts of the field.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2024/06/11/jim-gavins-committee-ready-to-assess-potential-changes-to-football-this-weekend/

"Teams will be required to keep three outfield players, plus goalkeeper, within the 65m line. Goalkeepers will continue to be allowed to play out of goal but once past the 65-metre line, must be covered by another player."

what shouldn't matter is the opinions of the couch potatoes and the channel hoppers that still want to be watching the euros and the ulster championship at the same time

the current situation is perfect for hurling and football supporters and players , screw the fair weather folk , if they want to watch rugby or soccer let them off the games wont die

I'm sorry but there isn't a hope in hell that the "clipboard and statistic nerds" will be curbed out even with rule changes.

There isn't a sport on the planet that has gone in that direction.

It's akin to saying that tactics should be curbed out of the sport.

I have to disagree there, of course tactics will always be there in sport, but proper rule changes should limit the

effect certain 'tactics' produce. I had to look and see if I said "curbed out" and I didn't, they will never be "curbed out"

but their influence can certainly be reduced.

"who cares what a 25 year old county player wants now"

Jesus!

Keep digging.

We will disagree.

Because there is NOTHING more important to any sport than those who actually play it.

Without them you don't have a sport.

A few rule changes. There are probably 200 rule changes dreamt up on this thread. To go with the dozens of genius plans to reorganise the competitions. Will they accept having nonsense ideas imposed on them? Will they hell.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/inter-county-players-reject-handpass-proposal/37534306.html

Of course I put the players on a pedestal. They are the ones providing the entertainment. We (i.e. the supporters) are the ones who get to lap it up.

Of course you get to voice your opinion. I'm just saying that I would be amazed if anyone would agree with your opinion that the fans are more important to the game than the players. And if only one individual has an opinion that is the opposite to many other opinions, I think it's fair to say that opinion can be discarded in the majority of situations.

On your last sentence, I'm delighted that you won't be attending games. I think that the atmosphere at games is usually worsened by the negativity brought by the likes of yourself and Bendar.

So tell me then, oh great thinker, if there were no players what exactly would the spectators have to watch?

More and more commentators commenting on the poor product current Gaelic football is.

Peter Canavan today commenting on the lack of inter county players able to take a 30 m shot at goal in case they missed.

Blamed the clipboard merchants and the stats gimps who would criticise the player later.

Seems like there are these designated 'shooters' now and everyone is afraid to have a shot hence the endless hand and foot passing to try to set up a 13 m shot from the middle of the goalposts.

Sooner the better Jim and the lads come up with a scheme to clear these lads off the backroom teams

We have lot competition but this QF must be worst game I have ever seen at Croker. Shocking

First half between Roscommon and Armagh was dire yes but the second half was much better to be fair. Twice as good going by scoring anyway!

Dublin Galway was a cracker. I missed the hurling which was a great game seemingly but I'd probably have watched the football anyway even if I had access to both given Dublin were on the ropes.

In all honesty there is 1 football quarter final that can be a bit of a slog every year.

But save for Austria Holland I'd take the football over the Euros this past week.

Seems weird for him to complain about it because he is all about having analysts for teams he’s involved with

That match was diabolical. The game needs a 'take down' tackle like the Compromise rules had. The tactics are so poor ..it looks what it is ..an amateur game. Hurling looks like it could be a pro game . Listen I'm biased but I think the crowds are starting to vote with their feet this season. Terrible crowd today.

Absolutely….I have faith that Jim Gavin will rescue our game from the clipboard merchants.

Might take a while but when the commentator can speak in his normal voice the whole game kind of tells you everything.