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Hay 2024

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭limo_100


    Weather is shocking it has being so difficult to get anything done last year everything only seems to get done by the skin of our teeth lately getting sick of it tbh its very frustrasting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,673 ✭✭✭✭fits


    just knocked a couple of fields here. Hedging bets. In south east.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    Week is promised ok up to Friday, not a lot of Sun but a good breeze most days. I find its easy to dry the hay out with the breeze but I'd like a strong day or two of sun to bleech the hay too.

    Anyways it cut now and its nice to get started rather than looking out at it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Was tight, but managed to make hay twice last year, in June and September. Already made a few bales this year and knocked 16 acres today, sometimes you just have to go for it but at least the wrapper is on standby as a safety net.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    No rain here, but was talking with a friend who's 5 min down the road who said it lashed as soon as he hooked up the mower, so he pulled the plug for today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,707 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Can someone explain the economics of buying in straw bales for bedding vs baling up a good few bales of hay?

    Why would i bed cattle on expensive straw when i can just land them on some dry hay i make myself?

    I have just converted to organic....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭cap.in.hand.


    Pity unsettled weather moving in from Saturday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    With straw you are importing neutrients onto the land, hay doesn't have the same soakage as straw, it's harder to get it to rot in the dung heap. I've had hay in the dung heap still failing to break down after 12 months;

    but yes the economics of buying straw at last years prices is not on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭Castlekeeper


    If you had a few rushy coarse meadows better than any straw, beaks down very quick after too. Pure hay tends to form a wet mat under the stock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Would be typical that after years of clearing out farms of rushes that they could potentially be worth something.🤣



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,574 ✭✭✭limo_100


    Got it twice last year in June myself, but there is notting more hateful than baling fit hay after a shower 😂 I don't think it makes the nicest stuff wrapped when its that far gone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Yea, I think if it's going to be wrapped it's better to wrap early, but that still gives me a few extra days to call it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Are you allowed wood chip or sand. Can you use a scraper to keep muck away from the bedding area.

    Few local organic folks make hay from rush ground. Feed the bales to dry cows and what ever is left over is grabbed up and used as bedding. They will sort it quickly. These lads have moved to making very dry fodder and putting a serous fall in the floor of the lie back to keep it dry. One chap has a bit of a gravel pit on farm and tips a load of sand gravel into the bedding area and covers it. All mixed in the compost and spread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭mr.stonewall


    Got hay twice last year in June and the year before on 4 separate occasions in 22

    The rain on friday and Saturday is moving around and wracking on each on the model runs. The warm air pushing up, I think will keep it well away. Tuesday and Wednesday will be good hay days, sunshine and wind.

    Tip is always turn for the weather, if it's starting to blow up into a good day, get turning it early at lunchtime. Very little point turning stuff after 4 or 5pm, the power is going out of the day unless it's a small bit of ground

    Next one is take it very handy tomorrow, slower forward speed on the tedders 4-5km/h max. You want to get all the crop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Yea, but amounts showing here are low, changing between Saturday afternoon and Friday evening, but set to improve after too.

    Think I'll bale/wrap one damp paddock and all of the headlands to speed things up a bit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭kk.man


    The last number of years in this country has been terrible to predict hay. Good hay should be minimal 50e a bale with all the poker that goes with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    Just gave it a run of the haybob, Slow start to the day, I thought it would be still fresh but it is surprising how it has progressed. I'll make a call on it tomorrow, it will need until Friday but if the weather isn't going to play ball I will bale it up tomorrow evening instead of letteing it go too far



  • Registered Users Posts: 503 ✭✭✭dryan


    5 acres knocked Saturday. Its heavy enough crop.
    Shook it out Sunday.
    Got the tail end of a shower last night.
    Went through it again at 4pm today and it got a good evening.

    Looking at Met, rain forecast for Friday although the GFS 12Z model run is showing less rain.
    Tuesday and Wednesday look to be good days so i might have a chance to bale it up late Thursday evening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,673 ✭✭✭✭fits


    met Éireann forecasting fairly heavy rain here on Friday night in south east. We cut Sunday night. Will toss it this morning. One field heavy and one light enough. May need to wrap it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    I've been watching that forecast here (for north east), and rain amounts keep changing considerably, not showing much now, but was showing a washout this morning, definitly worth watching. I'm wrapping headlands and damp spots this evening but still hopeful for some hay. Next week looks a better week and I've another 5 acres to knock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭PoorFarmer


    Got offered 20 acres last night by a neighbour but way too late to chance it this week now. Forecast models are showing nothing much for next week either in the south west.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭cap.in.hand.


    Forecast is not showing sunny weather either if anything cloudy maybe warmer air



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭Tileman


    now it is showing next week as warm and sunny. But that is the weather for the past 12 months n next week. Always next week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    No idea, what forecasts you've been looking at, but there hasn't been as promising a forecast that I've seen in a long while.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Will possibly be the first week of July before things really settle down going by the different forecasters who work of the ECMWF and GFS models so I'd say no rush yet cutting Hay imho.

    But definitely the signs are promising 🤞



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    There will be nothing wrong with the hay made here over the next 2 weeks and the kids will all be on holiday in July, would be nice to park the tractor up during some of the nice weather.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    Fantastic day here on Hay, wind and sunshine, gave it another shake there now. If tomorrow is like today then I could have it by Thursday easy.

    Depending on rain amounts on Friday I might be able to go for round 2 on Saturday as next week looks good too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,287 ✭✭✭Tileman


    it was 14degrees here now, over cast no sun or a wind. They were given this week to be better. Doesn’t bother me as I’ve no hay down but definitely nothing as good as predicted here. However hopefully the weather promised next week wil come as I’ve a few meadows to knock.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Sami23


    Yeah from the weekend on is looking really good so I'd say there be lots of Hay knocked from Saturday onwards.

    Still very cold around here in the evenings and just doesn't have the feel of Hay weather yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Glad I knocked when I did. Rainfall amounts here for Friday still look small, but the end of next week into the start of July not looking good now, but still far enough away to change again.



    MONTHLY FORECAST, ISSUED TUESDAY 18 JUNE 2024

    Week 1 (Monday 24 June to Sunday 30 June)

    During week 1, Ireland will lie in a predominantly south-westerly airflow between low pressure to the west and high pressure to the east. With high pressure to our east, rainfall over the eastern half of the country will be near normal or below. However, further to the west, indications suggest that it will be slightly wetter than average due to low pressure close by. Mean temperatures will be higher than average nationwide.

    Week 2 (Monday 01 July to Sunday 07 July)

    There is a signal for somewhat more changeable conditions for the first week of July. Low pressure is shown to have more of an influence on our weather. This will bring more frequent showers or possibly spells of rain. Rainfall will be near normal or slightly above as a result. Temperatures will be around normal or marginally above also.

    Week 3 (Monday 08 July to Sunday 14 July)

    There is low confidence in the forecast for week 3. Low pressure is signalled to develop over continental Europe, with a chance of high pressure influencing the weather over Ireland. Temperatures and rainfall are generally expected to be around average.

    Week 4 (Monday 15 July to Sunday 21 July)

    Similarly, there is low confidence in the signal for week 4. Current indications suggest that there is potential for high pressure to influence Ireland. Temperatures will be near normal, while rainfall will be average or slightly below average for some areas.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,673 ✭✭✭✭fits


    rain back on for here for Friday. Dunno if we will get hay. 😢



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,382 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Anyone with stuff to knock would be better to knock it before rain on Friday and then shake it Saturday. It will be dying away in the rows and rain will run off it. 3 or 4 good days promised next week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭kk.man


    You are probably right.. weather not playing ball at all. It's impossible to get 5 clear days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,291 ✭✭✭DBK1


    Exactly what I’ve recommended to a few lads today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    It's my plan for the last 5 acres I have to do, hopefully get it all done before the rain, plenty of switching machines around on tractors this week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭Jimbo789


    looks like the 4 to 5 days from Sunday onwards should be the first weather to make good hay this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    Plenty of good hay made already, it will be 2030 before making hay following some of the advice on here 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    Another fantastic day, One meadow is fit now, the other is almost there., I'll be baling tomorrow. What I noticed about the weather is we are getting no dew at night unlike when you go into July Aug it would be beyond midday before it has dried off.

    You know its nearly fit when you have to go for a shower after shaking to get the chaff and dust off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,680 ✭✭✭White Clover




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    No can do, the genius smashed it 4 winters ago and the new glass is sitting in the back of the shed with 3 years!!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭Jimbo789


    there are some very varied opinions of what people consider good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx


    To be fair we all know what good hay looks and smells like, the weather can vary significantly in different corners of this little island, but I have definitly seen some good hay made over the last few weeks… and some utter sh1t. If it's dry while maintaining a hint of green, no sap, no heating then it is good hay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,673 ✭✭✭✭fits


    3.3 m of rain forecast here on Friday. Of course it could be a lot more - or nothing.

    Great drying today but we have no haybob. I’d love to be able to turn it myself a few times. Was cut Sunday evening. Only turned this morning.

    Quite stressed tbh! Need hay as don’t have the stock to get through Haylage before it goes mouldy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭emaherx




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,760 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Or where in the country are you? Probably loads of local farmers with a tedder/haybob doing nothing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,673 ✭✭✭✭fits




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭kk.man


    I had no haybob when I was younger. I had people turning hay in fields near me and they never offered I didn't ask tbh. Had to depend on contractors.

    I swore when I was in a position I'd buy one, it was one of the best investments I made.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,673 ✭✭✭✭fits


    we are just getting going here. Just got the tractor recently. There are many things to buy. But yes haybob definitely up there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Silverdream


    Best time to buy one is at the end of the year, not in the middle of fine weather. There's a bit of maintaince every year with them, doesn't matter if they are nearly new or ancient you'll find there's springs and tines to be replaced.

    If I was buying I would be looking for at least the 300 series haybobs, those are the ones with the wide wheels, the other older type with the narrow wheels are ok as long as you get them for next to nothing



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭kk.man


    If I was starting out again I'd go for a lely lotus.



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