Delivery cyclists - grrrr..

I've seen some strange ones. I got an order for a BBQ dip once. Just the dip, nothing else. Someone else ordered 6 bottles of water from McDonalds. People working from home answering the door in their underwear and a bluetooth headset.

I seriously doubt people earn decent money from this, the industry preys on the desperate.

Yes reading this thread is all about :-)

It's not a cyclist vs motorist argument at all. It's a road safety argument. Anyone who is actually vaguely concerned about safety on the roads will be far more animated and concerned about drivers speeding, using their phones, drink and drug driving than anything delivery cyclists do or don't do. The data shows clearly that dangerous drivers are killing three or four people each week here, whereas dangerous cyclists are killing one person each decade. Injuries are in similar proportions.

But strangely enough, those who are regularly animated and concerned about cyclists and hugely enthusiastic about fixing cyclists rarely seem to be interested in fixing drivers. Which leads me to conclude that they're not really interested in road safety.

Can you post to anywhere that I defended delivery cyclists causing accidents collisions by dangerous actions please? A link would be great.

His usual response when anyone tries to rile up hatred against cyclists while hiding behind a veil of road safety.

And yet a quick review of road safety will tell you exactly where the real threat comes from. It's not delivery riders. It is drivers.

To be fair they certainly helped keep a lot of businesses ticking over during Covid and they're going about on bikes that would otherwise be people in cars going to get their food.

We are probably moving towards the drone era and when those things are shooting about the sky left, right and centre — not to mention the odd malfunction where one crashes into the roof or some random garden — we might miss the old days !

I've several gripes with these ebike delivery drivers, the biggest of which is this:

They generally hug the inside (the leftmost part of the road) and overtake other bikes on the inside (LHS) rather than on the expected right hand side. So you're cycling along on the left, there's some glass, potholes or whatever, you veer over a couple of feet to the right, continue cycling along for a few metres, then as you're about to veer back left into the default position on the road, the deliveroonatic zooms up past you on your left and you nearly collide with him. That's one gripe. Others are: them cycling contraflow, cycling on paths, gathering on paths thus blocking peds, they all seem to be ballyed-up with masks and snooks, perhaps to conceal their identity.

The sooner the delivery apps fade away the better, and the sooner they f-off back to their countries the better.

They're over from Brasil, on language school visas, which is one big scam generally. I've direct knowledge of how it all works and I know what I'm talking about. Do you?

Oh god, bloody start ups and their genius ideas.

In an average month, I experience more threatening behaviour from people using two wheelers (of all sort) than from people using four wheelers.

Ive never had a car driven straight towards me on a footpath, for instance. Have experienced it a few times from bicycles, though.

No one argues that there will be road deaths, the fact is that cyclists can be a menace - it should be safe to walk down a pedestrianised area without worrying about being hit by a lunatic on a speeding bike.

You know cars are on the road, you show basic road safety and common sense and generally will be fine. There’s not a lot you can do if a cyclist, delivery or not, mounts the pavement or cycles where they aren’t allowed.

I do quite a bit of walking and yes most days I do come across cyclists on footpaths. But at most its a minor inconvenience if even that. What I do find puzzling is meeting a cyclist on a footpath when there is a perfectly good cycle lane beside them. That's a bit of a head scratcher