Russia-Ukraine War (Threadbanned in op)

Yes making a video of supermarkets is such a normal thing for tourists to do and yet another normal day for putin's forces in Ukraine yesterday:

I'm sure you would say it looks like putin can cope with these losses without it being any sort of problem for his mighty empire and time is running out for Ukraine to make concessions….

Im not sure what you think the point is? all that matters is where you think the lines will be in 6 mths? 50% i'd say no significant change but there is a downside risk for Ukraine on the other hand I dont see the lines retaking Crimea or any such.

The other option was giving Russia free reign to complete the invasion. This would have resulted in larger scale genocide. On top of that, their military would have been left in a far stronger position without international backing for Ukraine. So Russia could easily have considered expanding beyond Ukraine. So what pray tell is the "middle ground" you have in mind?

Russia aren't coming out of this as a winner in any way btw. International position destroyed, huge amounts of oligarch's wealth taken, trade relationships destroyed and their army is decimated. Prior to the war they were viewed to have a pretty powerful military but that image has been decimated.

Forgot no 4 ie all the Co2 being produced because of all the fires- buildings, forests, vehicles, etc.

Russia have assured us of a more carbon neutral invasion going forward.

1 tank = 1 tree

Well for all those eco conscious types Russia is burning through their soviet era stock so fast that they'll probably be heading to the front on bicycles soon, #sustainableinvasion

lest we forget the Time person of the year in 2007

Putin is not a boy scout. He is not a democrat in any way that the West would define it. He is not a paragon of free speech. He stands, above all, for stability—stability before freedom, stability before choice, stability in a country that has hardly seen it for a hundred years. Whether he becomes more like the man for whom his grandfather prepared blinis—who himself was twice TIME's Person of the Year—or like Peter the Great, the historical figure he most admires; whether he proves to be a reformer or an autocrat who takes Russia back to an era of repression—this we will know only over the next decade. At significant cost to the principles and ideas that free nations prize, he has performed an extraordinary feat of leadership in imposing stability on a nation that has rarely known it and brought Russia back to the table of world power. For that reason, Vladimir Putin is TIME's 2007 Person of the Year.

champions league final 2008 Moscow

Winter Olympics 2014 Sochi

Now fast forward to 2024, millions emigrated - 100s of thousands dead or injured.

Foreign investment gone.

Inflation 17% interest rate 8-9%

Mincing about North Korea trying to find a new friend. 

Slow hand clap for Putins execution of a plan that was years in the making.

**** me, is that the latest talking points. Ukraine should surrender to stop climate change?

at least that’s a start but away, away, away,away, —————————-, off the mark!

Yes. Greta must have a word with the Ukrainians.

Yeah, it seems crass to mention it given the human toll/ suffering, but the ecological devastation caused, even just for Ukraine's own habitats, is depressing. Its the same with every war, but this is all in the midst of having reached global environmental crisis point. Another thank you card to write to Putin.

I think they won't have to cope nearly as hard as all the (Kremlin apologist\Both sides\Ukraine should negotiate) posters have been coping recently. They've been flooding the thread this past while since the Swiss peace summit for some reason.

Don't forget also it was Russia that suffered the most last winter since their infrastructure is crumbling and every penny that could fix all the bursting pipes and breaking dams is being used to send all the maintenance lads to die in Ukraine.

What do you think? Do you think Ukraine could be on to a winning formula soon since they have pretty much all of the worlds most influential countries supporting their peace formula? Meanwhile little bunker boy Vlad has had to prostrate himself in front of North Koreas Pop and Fresh. Is that why all the Kremlin sh*te spewers such as yourself are suddenly so riled up and scuttering up the thread?

Read an article recently and it mentioned all the major rich oligarchs who support Putin and have a big influence on politics behind the scenes are not happy with the effect of the sanctions, travel restrictions and business opportunities now in place. They feel that the future does not look bright. They would not be happy having to holiday in North Korea or Iran while their children would have to avail of Universities in Pyongyang or Tehran or other unattractive totalitarian countries. Gone are the days that they could avail of the tax havens of the World while sending their sons and daughters to the attractive cities of Europe!

Ukrferry restarted its operations in July 2023 with its ferry Vilnius (9,341 dwt) operating between Romania and Georgia. 

Additionally, at the end of May, the Ukrainian Sea Ports Authority reported that negotiations were underway to also resume a ferry service connection to Baku, Azerbaijan on the Caspian Sea

It is bad, but I think they will survive.

This extensive damage to grid/thermal + power plants Russia managed this year is (partly) a fruit of the stupid NATO/US "non escalation" reactive policy in dealing with Russia wouldn't you say? Also the silly Republican block/strike on providing military aid that lasted for half a year or so.

NATO/US have hemmed themselves in long past sense with all sorts of red lines and tripwires all over the place, where Putin/Russia are free to escalate and adapt/adjust their strategy as they like in Ukraine (and elsewhere), bar perhaps use of nuclear weapons (China/India have said they would not be happy).