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Annoying Gym Behaviour - Mk2(?)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,656 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    He was asking you to give him a shot when he finished. Not really uncommon, and not particularly recent. Kinda goes hand in hand with asking how many left, can I work in and other polite queries/requests/

    You don't have to give him a heads up, but given he asked politely, most people would. Obviously not expected to go searching for the guy high and low, but with the presumption he is nearby and takes a few seconds to say "I'm all done", it's kind of rude not to imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭Quiet Achiever


    I think that's a bit of a leap tbh.

    I would think he was letting you know where he was so that if someone else was to ask to use the machine when you were finished that you could nod towards him and say that he has been waiting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    I think that's a bit of a leap tbh.

    I agree. A bit entitled. A millennial perhaps? 🤣 But seriously, if I was in a good mood I might consider letting him know when I'm finished, otherwise I'd be thinking that it's up to him to find out.

    I would think he was letting you know where he was so that if someone else was to ask to use the machine when you were finished that you could nod towards him and say that he has been waiting.

    Exactly 👍️



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭reclose


    I was in the almost reverse situation this morning.
    Asked someone if they had many sets left, they said they didn’t know. I said ok no problem and walked away.
    I was doing another exercise and they gestured over to me when they’d finished.

    I’d consider that fairly normal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,892 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Might seem a bit greedy, but I know of an Intercounty Hurler whos knee blew out last year. I'd often see him in the gym now sitting for 30-40 mins straight doing the leg extensions with his bad leg while using a small pressure machine too attached to him. That's probably all he can do to get the strength back up.

    Might be something similar with the guy you mention.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    No , this guy had more the build of a play station world cup player



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭reclose


    Leg Extension machine and chest fly machine attract the lazy people



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    I had an " upper respiratory virus" for over two weeks, first time in the gym today since last Monday fortnight, while I took it slowly during the first thirty minutes, I thought I would be unable to do the sets I finished up on nearly three weeks ago

    I'm mildly asthmatic so get a relapse if I plough back in before being properly recovered



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭BlazingSaddler


    Injury or not that really isn’t acceptable. In my opinion leg extension/ chest fly machines and the like you shouldn’t be on for longer than a few fairly quick sets so any more than 5 to 10 mins is too long. Just plain rude to be on for 30 mins. If he lets you work in with him then it’s ok



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,656 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    No piece of equipment has a time limitimo. Certainly no equipment has a shorter or longer acceptable limit than another other equipment.

    It’s perfectly acceptable to be on any machine for any time if it’s not significantly impacting people. If nobody is looking to use it, no issue with 30mins. Similarly if there are multiple instances of that machine, no issues. But a single Maxine abd a queue of people. Cut it short or rotate.

    There’s a lot more context that setting a time limit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,528 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    In a busy gym you shouldn't expect to have a piece of equipment to yourself for an extended period of time.

    Gyms are shared spaces, asking to work in is a solution but some people refuse this.

    I see people pulling cables with 12kg on them then taking 4-5 minute breaks to look at their phones between sets, when I want to use that equipment I've no issues asking how long they're going to to be and if needs be asking what their logic is if they're not being reasonable about it.

    Gyms could do with giving their staff better training/instructions around dealing with members behaviour in general, a lot of younger people seem to never had heard of the concept of gym etiquette.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,656 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    You seem to have missed my point. I specifically referenced being considerate of others when the gym is busy.
    The entire point is that the appropriate length of time is dependant on how busy the gym is. If it quiet and there are multiple cable machines, using a machine for longer is more appropriate. If it's busy, and there's people waiting, then obvious you should try be quicker.

    There was no mentioned of it being busy in the OP - it may have been, but it was declared as inappropriate regardless. The point is that it depends on the situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,814 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    I would never hog a machine between 6 and 8pm , sometimes I can do multiple exercises on a Smith machine but if I did it would be 9 or 10pm or mid morning at the weekend, but and it doesnt happen often but a bunch of teenagers surrounding the single Bench press is a bit much

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,656 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Nor do I. The only equipment I camp on for any length of time is the squat rack/platform. And even that’s only because there’s 4 of them.

    If I had to do some boring rehab for 30 on a leg extension, I’d try find a quiet time in the weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,814 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    I used to do a routine I found with those cable arms and it could take 40min but there were 2 stations plus normal cable machines so didnt feel I was putting anyone out.

    I do find the odd time that people hog the Smith machine too much (and there is generally only one) with long gaps between the odd set they do lol, in such situations its safer going for an off peak time anyway

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,180 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    There's a friend of mine who will use an adjustable cable crossover / adjustable pulley machine to do chest, shoulders, triceps in succession. He likes the resistance profile.

    There's another guy in the gym who comes in to do a Starting Strength routine, and he'll use the same rack/platform to perform all his compound lifts.

    So in both of the above examples, you have someone that will be on the same equipment for a protracted period, even with normal rest periods.

    I don't think it's straightforwardly inconsiderate behaviour. If the gym has a number of racks / pulleys then potentially no issue arises.

    If it's peak time, and the gym has 8 racks, and they're still all occupied, then that situation changes, although I would also say there is a question to be asked about whether the gym is oversubscribed. But yes, I would try to be briefer and I would ask anyone hanging around did they want to work in.

    If I were in a rack, squatting, and because the gym is clearly so busy there was a queue of people waiting to use it, and I decided that I would only do one top set, it would still take me a while to do a few warm-up sets and then do my heavy work set. The rest would be shorter for the first couple of warm-ups, but yesterday I worked up to a 5rm paused box squat, and that took a while.

    I do see people going from exercise to exercise, and doing three sets of everything, no warm-ups, 45 seconds rest apiece, and they're gone.. That's certainly handy for everyone else, but it's not a great way to train so we've got to also be realistic about the time it takes people to get something out of a piece of equipment.

    If I'm the guy waiting, then as I see it I have two options:-

    You ask to work in, if it's practical (It wouldn't be practical to work in with me on a heavy paused box squat, unless the other party was using a similar weight and also squatting, IMO). People on this thread get really antsy about the issue of working in, but let's remember that in the real world it is the norm and I don't think I've ever had an issue with it.

    Or you change your workout. You could reverse order, and see if the rack / pulley station is available later. This is no biggie. If it's still not available, you potentially have to look at subbing movements that are "same but different". That cable chest press might become a dumbbell bench. The barbell squat might become a machine squat, or a heavy unilateral lower body lift or whatever.

    Really if the non-availability of equipment is an ongoing issue though, it's either time to move to a bigger gym, or train at a different time or look at a home training set-up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,814 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Ill find the routine, I dont do it anymore , the guy is a bit of a douche but I think it looked sound and it was easy to play if I needed a reminder but it would keep me at the same station for over 30min

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,402 ✭✭✭xckjoo


    There was a guy that started showing up regularly towards the end of my own sessions that stank to high heaven. Not sure if he was one of those "no wash" people or just didn't wash or change gym clothes during the week, but it was getting so bad it was hard to be there when he was. Regular looking dude. Skinny middle aged guy. He also used the two noisiest machines in the place. Some kind of arm thing and a step thing. Never really saw anyone else using them and not sure what they're for but they're crazy noisy when they get going.

    TBH it was only the intensity of the smell that made it annoying. The rest just added to the oddity of the situation. It was honestly hard to breath when you got near him.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭gym_imposter


    Few days ago, two people ( male and female circa early forties) had a ten minute conversation across the gym with each other, wasn't even about exercise, more " do you know who died recently" kinda thing

    Harmless but became annoying



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,656 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Just finished a training phase, about start a new program, so testing week. Has a low volume session planned, mobility, HB squat max, incline bench max. Took my time on squats. Head over to the only incline bench to finish and see 4 guys are using it. After 10 minutes of waiting, did around 3 sets between them. So not even one each. And looked like first set warm ups (load and intensity) , so was about to leave assuming they'd be an hour getting to to work sets - when they just said they were done.

    Went from empty bar to top set in 9 minutes. Speed running PRs FTW.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,180 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    I do think it's possible to overdo warm-ups and running up to a top set, for me it's pretty body part specific. If it's a heavy deadlift or squat it's going to take a while. I'm a comparatively weaker presser so I possibly could do significantly fewer sets when working up. Not sure about nine minutes though! Well done anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,656 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I’m usually economically with warm ups for max efforts. 5x, 3x, 2x, then singles. But I’d take prepped rest between the “hard” singles.

    yesterday I was just fed up waiting. And didn’t really care what I maxed at. Took bigger jumps and less reps. Worked out. /shrug



  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭Warbeastrior


    How do you tackle someone working in if they have longer rest periods than you. Happened me recently, I had a 90s rest period and they seemed to have longer which meant that they were only half way through a set when I was ready to go again.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,180 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    If it was a big compound movement it wouldn't be a big enough deal for me to worry about. I guess depends... resting something like 3 minutes versus 90 seconds... I'd probably just accept it, take the extra rest and crush the work sets.

    On an isolation movement or if it's warm ups then certainly shouldn't be taking an age.

    If they were really sluggish I'd just start pushing a little bit, "cool, I might go again now if that's ok". They'll get the message.

    If they've let you work in I'd be mindful of that too though.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,814 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    from general "twitter advice" it seems like taking longer breaks between sets for big heavy movement is better for performance than rushing things , intuitively seems sensible

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 3,180 Mod ✭✭✭✭Black Sheep


    You can do better than general twitter advice!

    But yes, if someone really wants to get the most out of a set and their goal is strength and/or hypertrophy then too short a rest period is detrimental. The main downside of too long a rest period is just inefficiency. Hard to write specific times in stone, though.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    The onus is on the person working-in to inconvenience the other as little as possible, so I'd advise saying that due to different rest periods, the person working-in needs to wait/rest till the other person has done two sets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,656 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    If you’re 90seconds. And they’re 2mins, it’s irrelevant. If they’re 3+ mins then do two sets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,752 ✭✭✭degsie


    Why do people find it necessary to bring bags into the gym? For heavens sake there is even a gym rule about not bringing in bags in case somebody trips over them. Brainless!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,716 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Ive noticed similar dirty devils in the mardyke Arena gym,

    Few thank God but smelly feckers,

    Noticed a few fellas just spraying themselves rather than showering,

    Can't understand it,and what's more not old guys.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭reclose


    Since we’ve moved back to the more trivial stuff.
    Lads going around with their hoods up working out.
    Dragging your bag around with you is a strange one too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,159 ✭✭✭BlazingSaddler


    with headphones on top of the hood! Irrationally annoying!



  • Registered Users Posts: 299 ✭✭mindhorn


    A guy in the place I go to deadlifts and squats in his bare feet. And he stands on plates when carrying out these lifts. I got a good look at his feet today as he was propping them up on a barbell whilst stretching. I wouldn't mind (well, I do) if they were in good enough nick but they looked manky enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,947 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    the bag draggers are weird phenomenon… signage everywhere of ….‘strictly no bags on the gym floor, please use lockers provided, thank you’….

    Loads of lockers, you have to walk past the locker area to access the gym, your membership card that you have to use get into the gym opens and locks the locker with a single touch. So literally zero inconvenience…

    Someone walks around a corner, catches their foot in an bag strap some goon left beside a treadmill… could really hurt themselves…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,068 ✭✭✭fatbhoy


    There's a couple of smellies in my gym too. One is the smell of underarm BO infused into his polyester top. I don't think he washes it much. The other guy is a different smell, just general stale body smell, mixed I think with tobacco. Something like that.

    Then the other thing that annoys me is this girl who supersets different exercises. Today she had the squat rack, and was flat BB benching with it. Fair enough. But she also had a BB setup in front of the bench, doing deadlifts or bent-over rowing, not sure. Point is, she'd do a set of benching, then do the DLs, then back to benching. Two BBs used up. Now, there's only a certain number of BBs in the gym, and when it gets busy all the good ones can be used up. In fairness to her, she'd grand about letting you share. If you asked to share the bench for chest say, I reckon she'd let you work in; same with the DLs. But it annoys me kind of. Even when the gym is empty it annoys me 🤣. I just have a thing about people doing supersets, or a load of different exercises in rotation, if you get me. I think I mentioned before on here about this guy who had two squat racks, side by side, on the go at the same time, doing different exercises in each: like in one, maybe incline bench, and in the other, squatting. Something like that. More amusing than annoying (probably only because the gym was empty; if it was packed and I needed one of the racks I wouldn't be shy about letting him know).

    Another one was dopes unloading BBs on squatting racks: low IQ person removes all the plates from one side, bar flips violently and hits the deck with huge force, anyone passing by could be seriously injured or killed, happened umpteen times. My gym had to put up signs telling people to alternate sides when removing weights.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭Cill94


    For a lower body session I could be carrying a belt, chalk, straps, squat/deadlift shoes, headphones, and a logbook. It's part and parcel of taking lifting seriously, and much easier to carry with a bag. if it's positioned neatly next to you then I don't see a problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 222 ✭✭as_mo_bhosca


    Would you not wear them instead? Go back to locker/ bag area for stuff you need or to put back what you're done with.

    This is a fine example of " the rules don't apply to me" attitude that is the main reason for this thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,814 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    I see the odd person take up a Smith machine and dump their gear—too much , but I have a light bag but its for a bottle of water, a logbook, and a couple of "tools" for the gym. things would get forgotten otherwise

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,656 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Lockers are for your belongings while you work out. A bag on the gym floor would be for things that you use during the workout.

    Depending on what I'm doing. I might have some micro-plates, chalk, wrist wraps and my notebook. It's far easier to keep that tidy in a small bag.
    Leaving a bag behind a treadmill where somebody might step off and trip is careless. But weights areas typically have equipment around the place that people could trip on if they were not careful. People should stay aware.

    You might wear the belt for squats only. Straps for deadlifts, etc. You certainly see people where all the bells and whistles for every exercise and set. But that's not somebody who knows what they are doing.
    Walking back to the locker room to chalk between sets would be ridiculous.

    Not sure how that's a "rules don't apply to me attitude". Different places have different rules.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭Cill94


    It’s not ‘rules don’t apply to me’ if the gym doesn’t have a policy against it. I wouldn’t train in a gym if they did. 

    I actually think this and several other issues raised in this thread more so highlight the difference in understanding of gym etiquette between people who are less and more experienced in strength training.

    Examples would be carrying equipment in a bag, video recording your sets for technique analysis, spending more than 15 minutes on a rack etc. Go into a serious strength training gym and this is standard.

    Granted there are always sound and less sound ways of doing the above. 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭reclose




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭reclose


    The bag draggers in the gym I go to aren’t carrying around gear/equipment to use during their workout.

    I also have an irrational dislike of people super setting using two or three different pieces of equipment. It just comes across as selfish. I fully accept it’s relatively normal for people to do this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭Cill94


    It is for people that lift enough for it to matter



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭Cill94


    I actually fully agree with your superset opinion. I don’t think it’s acceptable to do that unless the gym is basically empty.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭reclose


    haha nice! I guess my 500kg bicep curls don’t matter 🙂

    It’s probably a generational thing. I’d find it weird to see someone with a camera set up to record their workout in my gym.
    I’d probably understand it more in a more private setting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,001 ✭✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    During Covid, our gym closed the changing rooms and encouraged (insisted in fact) that users carry a bag with them.on the gym floor. The showers where still open during this covid restriction period but with restrictions so you had people carrying bags around containing towels , toiletries, a change of clothes etc. After having no access to the gym for several months everyone was just happy to be back in the gym and got on with it...

    After Covid became a thing of the past and restrictions had long since been lifted I continued to carry a bag around with me, albeit just with a hand towel, water, a few straps, gloves and my own personal resistance bands. Signs went back up saying 'due to health and safety reason no bags allowed on the gym floor'

    ... Somehow the gym went from been perfectly fine with every single user having a bag on the gym floor to have q zero tolerance policy in the space of 2 months.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,656 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I assume you meant 50kg not 500kg. 😉 I'd consider that pretty high.

    But yes, 50kg curls don't matter, at least in that context. Bicep curls are not a competitive lift in weight lifting or power lifting. I don't think I've ever seen any videos of technical analysis of bicep curls (could be filmed for other reasons though).

    For competitive lifts like squats, deadlifts, cleans, snatches, etc. To get the most out of your potential, it's almost a prerequisite that you record and do at least some analysis. For a competitor, or any person/gym taking strength training seriously. Recording is totally standard in those instances and has been for a long time.

    That's not to say every video ever in the gym as analysis btw. But that was the context specifically mentioned above.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,031 ✭✭✭Slideways


    Amazing how people lifted big weights with good form before camera phones and tripods eh



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭Cill94


    People also used to lift without bars and weight plates. Amazing how as technology advances, people who want to progress optimally use it to their advantage 😛



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,818 ✭✭✭Eoinbmw


    I've trained with some monstrous competitive powerlifters who have never even brought a phone onto the gym floor!

    It's deffo a generational thing!

    It's standard now for the tiktok insta gym newbie! They all think they are the next Larry or Callum!



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