I find this quite depressing (current state of Irish residence market, personal experience):

I agree.

My daughter was living in an apartment in a town in Kerry. She got on great with the LL, she went away for 3 months, he said he'd keep it for her , even told her to leave her stuff there. When she came back her stuff had been packed away and a Ukrainian family of 4 were living there with a beautiful white Ukranian BMW parked outside the front door. She is now living in a camper van as there is nowhere to rent in that town in Kerry but she needs to be there in order to work.

The rhetoric is bizarre on this, its like a form of reverse racism. I'm guessing this thread will be closed down or I will be banned like I was from another thread on a similar topic because I was using "anecdotes". Unfortunately this "anecdote" is the daily truth of my daughter's life and of so many other Irish people.

I know this is not popular, but IMHO some of this is a reaction to the race for tenant protections over the last few years.

The Accommodation Recognition Payment (ARP) has big advantages over regular rental income for landlords:

• 800 euro per month income tax free will mean more net income from ARP than about 1600 per month from regular rental income for some landlords
• The people staying in the properties are licensees and not tenants, so after 2 years, if the property goes back on the regular rental market, RPZ will not apply
• As the people are licensees, there is no registering with the RTB, no overholding, no eviction bans etc.

In trying to protect tenants in the market, we have created an incentive for landlords to move to ARP.

I am glad to have recently got out of letting market & gladly sold the property to the long term tenants, slightly lower than market value, but worked out well for everyone except for estate agent’s astronomical fee when their was no advertising or viewing involved. I had been locked into a lower than market value letting income. It has made good sense all around and I would not recommend any one individual investing in the letting market.

Also it's funny when Irish people are jealous of Ukrainian's cars, what did you expect them to arrive on? Donkeys? A wreck held together with baler twine like the Beverly Hillbillies?

It is well known they drive expensive cars not just in Ireland either. Expensive cars that perhaps the locals who pay for their own rent cannot afford. They should sell their cars and pay for the accommodation just like the rest of us.

Some bang of jealousy off ya.

I dont blame them for coming here. Not their fault.

Yourself and Putin would make great buddies.

I've not seen them in Porsches either, just regular family cars not dissimilar to ones already here. Even so if Russians start bombing your country a Porsche is just as useful as any car to get out of dodge.

if they bought the car in Ukraine and drive it here what do you expect them to do? Sell it at a significant loss as left hand drive to buy a right hand drive, which when they return home will be useless

Total nonsense

Typical Irish begrudgery over people fleeing a war, a new low for some

A high end BMW 3 series is 88k in Ukraine new, BMW M3 based on the website, looking at an Irish BMW website, the same car seems to start at 151k

Not spending a whole time reviewing spec etc

Looking at a car which is sold and Ireland and thinking it is the same price in Europe is wrong

We pay more first off becuase we are right hand drive and then out government takes a nice chuck

Must be a right pain in the hole for them to be lugging the free buggies all the way up to the penthouse? Sure, some will point out that they can just leave them outside on the street and get another free one tomorrow, but then they'd miss out out on the fun of throwing them from the penthouse down onto the plebs passing by.

So you want to stop people calling out racism because it is "boring"

Don't think you will get much support for that.

What else do you want to stop been called out because it is boring? homophobia?

Reading this thread is a great example of racism, a lot of thread on boards when it comes to Ukraine and immigrants are the same and it's from the same accounts.

How is that relevant to what I said tho.What would I care what made up scenario you came up with to bring your argument into it

Fairly obvious to me, if you don't understand then no point ruining the thread trying to.

Ukrainians are Caucasians.

Irish are Caucasians.

Precisely Bollox Chop.

Xenophoby, perhaps, not racism.

In English, the word "racism" is used to describe discrimination based on race OR ethnicity. The word "ethnicism" can mean discrimination based on ethnicity, but it can also mean ethnic loyalty or relate to the structure of an ethnic society, so it's not a commonly used word in this context, as it's very imprecise and can have both positive and negative connotations. The word "racism" doesn't have such ambiguity, so it's very commonly used instead. It's just the way English works - not every word adheres to it's "literal" meaning. I hope this clears up your confusion.

IMHO MIL is elderly and was taken advantage of. Hard sell with sob stories. Old people can find it difficult to deal with this type of in your face pressure. Shouldnt be allowed.