Limerick improvement projects

Tipp and Cork people would be better off walking from town or switching on to the 302/343.

Corpus Christi to PnG is almost as long and has absolutely no amenities between the station and stadium.

What is 11 mins. Is that how long they say the train will take ?

Yes

https://www.irishrail.ie/en-ie/about-us/iarnrod-eireann-projects-and-investments/new-stations/moyross

Bus stops all through Moyross so unless you are very lucky it is a walk to the new station and then a walk from Colbert because it is near nothing.

But from the point of view of hopping on a train or bus to another part of the country the city bus at rush hour is useless

I would say I get that bus from Moyross a lot more than you and honestly nobody thinks the journey is too long. And they have no problem voicing their opinions on that bus.

I used to take the bus to/from town every day when studying in LIT (TUS) and between 8 to 10am and 5 to 7pm the traffic between there and town you'd often be an hour doing that journey. The 302 shares a lot of the road with a bus that would go through moyross

Tipp and Cork people would be better off walking from town or switching on to the 302/343.

Corpus Christi to PnG is almost as long and has absolutely no amenities between the station and stadium.

The railway tracks are linked though. Trains could potentially run from Cork, Thurles, Waterford etc directly to the new station. The matchgoers might be better off but the pedestrian traffic in the city would be much more manageable. With regards to amenities we have the technology these days to cook burgers, make coffees and serve pints from the back of movable trailers so I don't think that will be a huge problem either

Thats exactly what I thought, re bus routes and connectivity to UL ,Castletroy ,while taking traffic & heavy goods buses and other commuting out of the areas ,While also giving a more direct access. Corbally road and long pavement need traffic away from them, way too small for what is on them and the bottlenecks !! also would help drive traffic that go through town away with alternative routes.

I think a station in Moyross is an easy start. Plenty of land on an existing line and easy enough to put in a single platform and a small ticket office. Ideally you would love one in Raheen but that involves the finishing of the Foynes line. for Ballysimon the only spot I can think of is the green area in Norwood park which has less population and still leaves you in the middle of a housing estate.

The train lines are only linked at Colbert so you have to pull in and back out which isn't really "linked" like a proper through route.

Moveable trailers are not enough for that amount of people and you can't just reserve pints out of a trailer as you require licencing and confined areas. Good luck setting that up in a field in Moyross.

Check Google Colbert and Moyross are the exact same length of a walk and the city has 2 buses to PnG and Moyross none. As for "pedestrian traffic" you are only moving the problem.

You are basically making passengers sit on a train while it reveres in and out and travels on to a destination the same distance away with no buses, pubs, shops or food/coffee facilities. It's utterly pointless.

And nobody in Moyross has expressed an interest in using that train to get to the city and very few will use it to get to Dublin or Cork because so few will link directly to LJ.

while my initial thoughts on this is madness ,if it frees up footpaths and doesn't take all green spaces it might not be a bad idea as it seems initially.most estates i've noticed have terribly resticited access and with parking outside houses it erodes it even more

Rather than tarring over all the green areas, I think what they're proposing is widening the roads by a few more feet/meters to allow for parking, give access for bin trucks, fire tenders and other service vehicles.

How often does one single person appeal to ABP? Usually it's residents groupings or the developer themselves. An Taisce, being a charity, get the same treatment as all charities in these cases

On what grounds did An Taisce object?

Also on the northside Laya Healthcare have got their permission https://www.eplanning.ie/LimerickCCC/AppFileRefDetails/2460059/0 but this will also go to ABP.Looking at the suubmissions Clare Daly the MEP who is now no longer an MEP had an objection aswell as a number of local TDs and some councillors who were delighted when they came to the area but now have a problem with Laya expanding.

That would be an absolutely insanely positive development.

Ireland famously has no covered velodrome with one finally in the works for Sports Campus Ireland.

To suddenly have two and one be in Limerick would be amazing.

Do you have a link to the application ?

Can't help but think if they went for less density they might have been able to avoid an appeal altogether and we'd have much more housing in our city and county.

This happens every time they try to build too dense,

Must really hurt that its "one of their own" inflicting this inhumanity on them 🤣

I walked the road on Thursday and all looked ok but this morning white markers have been sprayed on the road in front of the houses and on the footpath at NCR end,to me it might be resurfacing or possible double yellow lines.

Push upmarket? In Limerick? Thought that label was reserved for areas such as Raheen and Castletroy. Or is it just an assumption you make because of their objection?

I think it's more that I see the limitations and drawbacks of high density housing. There's certainly benefits no doubt. The main one being that it annoys rich people but you shouldn't be planning a city on the basis of who it annoys

I also try to be civil and point it out but get labelled a dinosaur but that says more about you than me

Also, bit ironic you saying I sing the same song every time when you do the same, albeit the song is different

More people living in a smaller area means less traffic? What a ridiculous thing to say! With thinking like that I can understand why you are so supportive in fairness

You only have to look at places like Raheen and Castletroy to see how wrong you are

More density means more people, people drive cars, more density means more car traffic... It's quite simple logic and I'm not sure why you think differently but go ahead keep telling yourself I'm the one that doesn't have a clue, somebody might even believe it